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Thongpocket 12-12-2012 01:33 AM

Why has Cobb abandoned the BRZ?
 
How come Cobb doesn't have ANYTHING for the BRZ? Do they not care about us?

Dimman 12-12-2012 01:47 AM

No turbo, no care?

JoeBoxer 12-12-2012 01:52 AM

I bet they come out with something, maybe not an AP but they would be silly to not develop anything for the most popular car in the tuner market right now.

Guff 12-12-2012 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 603769)
No turbo, no care?

I emailed them a while back and they gave me an answer sorta similar to this...


It was a loooongg time ago though... Probably June or so...

chutrain 12-12-2012 03:05 AM

They are not going to develop the Cobb AP since it won't yield enough power for anything with small liter displacement and NA. They probably feel that hp per dollar that you spend on their AP unit won't attract that many buyers.

Suspension wise, they probably should look into that. But they are doing more than enough sales for just the Subaru turbo cars, there is no need for them to create more work.

Honestly, I would skip the Cobb AP anyways because they are off the shelf and tuned very conservatively. You are better off getting a tune from one of our vendors or a good tuner/dyno shop. They will get the most out of the car and adjust to your needs.

ScionFrsFan 12-12-2012 03:37 AM

To piss me off lol i wish they would make a tune.

seven 12-12-2012 04:40 AM

They're making more money elsewhere, if a factory-turbo BRZ/FR-S is made, maybe then they'd jump in the game.

VSGTS14 12-12-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chutrain (Post 603862)
They are not going to develop the Cobb AP since it won't yield enough power for anything with small liter displacement and NA. They probably feel that hp per dollar that you spend on their AP unit won't attract that many buyers.

Suspension wise, they probably should look into that. But they are doing more than enough sales for just the Subaru turbo cars, there is no need for them to create more work.

Honestly, I would skip the Cobb AP anyways because they are off the shelf and tuned very conservatively. You are better off getting a tune from one of our vendors or a good tuner/dyno shop. They will get the most out of the car and adjust to your needs.

i don't think you understand the nature of the cobb ap. you buy it as the tuning tool and you go to the tuner that has the cobb protuner software and is certified in it. he then creates a tune with it, flashes it on your car and puts the map on the ap.
the cobb ap is 3x better than ecutek in terms of user ability. both have lots of features.
you probably know this as you have a spec b!

cobb won't support the car as much, since it's not turbo. the R&D probably won't yield the results they want. i asked if they would support the hyundai gen coupe and told me it'll cost too much for the benefit.

gmookher 12-12-2012 12:25 PM

I got Something like our focus is only on for factory Forced induction cars right now

Spaceywilly 12-12-2012 12:28 PM

I think a lot of companies are just waiting for the turbo version. I spoke to Killer B Motorsports and they said the same thing.

neutron256 12-12-2012 12:39 PM

How can they abandon something they never supported in the first place? I'd love it if they got into the game too, but its not like they had a product for our cars and then stopped offering it.

diirk 12-12-2012 12:54 PM

I'd buy a Cobb AP if it was available. Had one for my last two Suby's. Great product.

Hanakuso 12-12-2012 01:07 PM

At first I was a little mad but

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...ha4do1_400.gif

chutrain 12-12-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSGTS14 (Post 604227)
i don't think you understand the nature of the cobb ap. you buy it as the tuning tool and you go to the tuner that has the cobb protuner software and is certified in it. he then creates a tune with it, flashes it on your car and puts the map on the ap.
the cobb ap is 3x better than ecutek in terms of user ability. both have lots of features.
you probably know this as you have a spec b!

cobb won't support the car as much, since it's not turbo. the R&D probably won't yield the results they want. i asked if they would support the hyundai gen coupe and told me it'll cost too much for the benefit.


I do have an AP for my SpecB, and I do admit that the user interface is very straight forward. It does pack a lot of features for the price. I was going to go open source and ditch the AP, but decided to keep it as I was deciding to have the tuned for E85, and the AP would allow me to switch maps more easily. I only got around to finishing an E-Tune on 93 octane.

Here is how I see it with price breakdown.

Ecutek + License + E-Tune is going to run ~$800 and up.
Ecutek + License + Dyno Tuned ~$1100 and up figuring a shop is going to charge around $500 for the dyno time.

Cobb AP usually runs around $600 and comes with a standard tune for stage 1 and 2.

All kinda different in terms of what is being offered and for different price points. Cobb would essentially be slotted on the lower priced end which would appeal to some. Perhaps there might be a market for them. You have to figure that Subaru is going to be using this motor across some of there platforms.


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