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Scooby South 12-06-2012 06:58 PM

Header and Overpipe...
 
Should they be Ceramic Coated and/or Wrapped????
Discuss please..:)

Bill

OrbitalEllipses 12-06-2012 06:59 PM

If you're min/maxing, why wouldn't you? Probably not as critical as on a turbo car.

FreshFRS 12-06-2012 07:01 PM

wrapped would be all you need. you could do both if you are really worried about it.

Scooby South 12-06-2012 07:07 PM

I think Ceramic/Wrapped would be good for the header to maximize efficiency and probably just Wrapped on the overpipe.. thats my 2 pesos..

BRZ? 12-06-2012 07:57 PM

I wrap the whole exhaust, from the engine to the tips. Why not?

FR-S Matt 12-06-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZ? (Post 594865)
I wrap the whole exhaust, from the engine to the tips. Why not?

A little excessive unless you have the extra money to throw at it. I'd most importantly want the headers coated or wrapped more than anything. You want that heat out of the engine bay. Like someone else said, furthest I'd go is probably the overpipe. Behind that, I don't think it matters too much unless someone can provide insight on why it would be valuable.

Dimman 12-06-2012 08:40 PM

Whatever you decide, a before and after dyno would be nice. Or temp readings or something.

Captain Insano 12-06-2012 08:43 PM

I've wrapped, coated, and coated/wrapped headers on past cars. I think obviously max heat proteciton is coat/wrap. I do think though on this car that EGTs probably won't be as high as a turbo car. With that in mind, it would be very nice if some of the header/exhaust vendors would have a coating option. If they did, that probably would be all I would do on the header/overpipe for this car. JMHO.

And I'm talking about real quality coating that makes a difference (like anything, there are good coatings and bad coatings out there). Something like swain inside and outside.

usptwins 12-06-2012 09:53 PM

http://www.jet-hot.com/

Check out Jethott coated... People use that to keep temps cooler and tends to make the parts last longer.. If im not mistaken.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 12-06-2012 09:56 PM

Prefer coating to wrapping, especially on stainless parts.

maj75 12-06-2012 10:09 PM

Since most of the systems for our cars are stainless, you probably won't see a lot of coating options. Besides the thermal advantage, coatings are usually used on cheaper mild steel headers so they last longer without rusting. Since the stainless headers don't rust like mild steel, coating is redundant for all but the most hard core applications.

Wrapping is death to mild steel headers, but fine on stainless. Not only does it keep heat out of the engine, it keeps the heat in the exhaust. Theoretically, that helps exhaust flow.

GTB/ZR-1 12-06-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse@JDLAutodesign (Post 595114)
Prefer coating to wrapping, especially on stainless parts.

Agreed...

I've had a set of Watson SS headers on my ZR the were Jet Hot Coated back in early '96--not a single issue & I'm certain it's helped w/ some of the heat radiation. My .02...

BRZ? 12-07-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 594887)
A little excessive unless you have the extra money to throw at it. I'd most importantly want the headers coated or wrapped more than anything. You want that heat out of the engine bay. Like someone else said, furthest I'd go is probably the overpipe. Behind that, I don't think it matters too much unless someone can provide insight on why it would be valuable.

Increases exhaust gas velocity, especially helpful in turbo vehicles

gmookher 12-07-2012 12:33 PM

I'm going FI via SC, and feel just fine with a uncoated header. One of my big reasons for SC is you dont have the same heat concerns you do witha turbo. I could see where om a turbo application, coating can be more important depending on placement etc


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