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Stressin 10-21-2012 05:49 PM

Down on power after reflash
 
Just about to have my ecu reflashed, is it true that you lose power and has anyone confirmed this on a dyno?

Lonewolf 10-21-2012 06:42 PM

No one seems to know with any certainty...all we have so far are "seat of the pants" butt dyno impressions which have no data to back up the feelings...

ft86Fan 10-21-2012 07:03 PM

Are you referring to the reflash that fixes the CEL issue?

Rob_g 10-21-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stressin (Post 511431)
Just about to have my ecu reflashed, is it true that you lose power and has anyone confirmed this on a dyno?

I'll go on record and say I don't think this is true. I have a new ECU in my FR-S and it doesn't seem 'down on power'. Although it still does not idle well and seems to now have some kind of random throttle glitch or bog condition at low rpm.

Rob

wallace03 10-21-2012 09:35 PM

I was also wondering about this. Will the new cars off production line with the new ECU be less responsive? Didn't someone on the forums say that they saw improvements after resetting their battery after getting the new ecu?

Tricky1980 10-21-2012 10:31 PM

for the most part I think its the exact same before and aftrr'.... My issue is about 5% of the time I have a real bad bog and lack of acceleration down low from stop or almost stop...def no slow rolling start in 2nd gear......

DanoFA20 10-21-2012 11:16 PM

:thumbdown:
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Originally Posted by Tricky1980 (Post 511827)
for the most part I think its the exact same before and aftrr'.... My issue is about 5% of the time I have a real bad bog and lack of acceleration down low from stop or almost stop...def no slow rolling start in 2nd gear......

sorry to here :( i hope i dont get these horrid issues when mine comes in

i hope toyota and subaru really do some heavy duty glitch fixes

Draco-REX 10-21-2012 11:28 PM

Immediately after a reflash, the car will be down on power and feel sluggish. That's because the reset of the ECU will clear the learned values, so the ECU will be using a known safe calibration. As you drive it, the gas pedal will get sharper and the power will return. I haven't done this with my BRZ yet, but my STI behaves the same way and it takes about 20 miles or so for it to feel normal again.

wheelhaus 10-22-2012 12:25 AM

During my audio installation I had the battery disconnected, and after I'd finished and reconnected the battery, throttle response was quite noticeably sluggish. After some miles (maybe 50-100mi?) it began to feel like normal again. I don't believe this was any sort of placebo or me "getting used to the machine" because I noticed for the same amount of foot movement the throttle responded more quickly and accurately, as it did before.

I say give it some time and some miles (including some full rpm runs through the gears) to allow the ECU to learn and adjust it's parameters again.

20valvewynn83 10-22-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wallace03 (Post 511745)
I was also wondering about this. Will the new cars off production line with the new ECU be less responsive? Didn't someone on the forums say that they saw improvements after resetting their battery after getting the new ecu?

resetting the battery after a new ECM is replaced will have no effect due to no learning values being stored in the ECM. one thing i can tell you is drive it like it new (may not want to pass 4k RPM's) because the ECM will learn normal driving habits and this is good because when you get on it the ECM will know your in a panic and give more performance.

:happy0180:

dabocx 10-22-2012 01:02 AM

Hopefully it does go back up to normal levels, because if it doesnt it simply is not acceptable. Im still trying to get my idle dip fixed and the last thing i need is for it to get fixed and for this to happen permanently

Those Meddling Kids 10-22-2012 02:23 AM

If I get a chance this week I will throw mine back on my dyno and verify power. It feels around the same I think.

Le86 10-22-2012 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 512158)
Hopefully it does go back up to normal levels, because if it doesnt it simply is not acceptable. Im still trying to get my idle dip fixed and the last thing i need is for it to get fixed and for this to happen permanently

You're gonna have a long wait if you have the same issue I did, my friend. Dealer tried to reflash my ECU but no dice. My car has been rotting at the dealership for the last 3 weeks, awaiting a new ECU to arrive. :mad0260:

dabocx 10-22-2012 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Le86 (Post 512349)
You're gonna have a long wait if you have the same issue I did, my friend. Dealer tried to reflash my ECU but no dice. My car has been rotting at the dealership for the last 3 weeks, awaiting a new ECU to arrive. :mad0260:

:(


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