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FWDsucks 11-23-2009 06:07 PM

AE86????
 
Does anyone know where I can get an AE86 in the U.S. without importing it? Because I was looking and most of them are rhd and most likely wouldnt pass emissions test when it went through customs. I dont want end up buying one and ending up like these skyline dirvers
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/03/n...sible-illegal/

4agze 11-23-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FWDsucks (Post 4841)
Does anyone know where I can get an AE86 in the U.S. without importing it? Because I was looking and most of them are rhd and most likely wouldnt pass emissions test when it went through customs. I dont want end up buying one and ending up like these skyline dirvers
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/03/n...sible-illegal/


You mean a Japanese spec Trueno AE86? Not a corolla GTS! I dont get what you want us to help you?

FWDsucks 11-23-2009 06:57 PM

Are the Ae-86 and corolla GTS really that different? I would prefer an Ae-86 but i'm scared it will get confiscated.

OldSkoolToys 11-23-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FWDsucks (Post 4844)
Are the Ae-86 and corolla GTS really that different? I would prefer an Ae-86 but i'm scared it will get confiscated.


Are we...

Are we being trolled?

Oh hell with it, troll or not, i'll bite.

The Corolla GT-S IS an AE86. All AE86 stands for is the chassis designation: A-Engine type (4A), E- Corolla, 8-8th generation of the series, 6- 6th model of the generation.

Look under the hood of any GT-S or SR-5 (model years 1984-1987) and on the firewall you'll see at the very top "AE86". The difference comes in on the actual vincode, where GT-S's start out with "JT2AE88" and SR-5's have "JT2AE86". This doesn't matter anyways, as those aren't chassis codes, they're vin codes, for registration purposes. BOTH cars are AE86 chassis'.

The mechanicals between the GT-S and the Japanese variants GT-V and GT-Apex (I use both ,since both cars came with options that the GT-S has) are practically the same, save the difference in MAP vs. MAF for intake, along with emission parts installed. They all have the 4A-GE Twin Cam 16valve engine, 5spd transmission, and 4-wheel disc brakes.

The japanese cars are slightly lighter due to the less stringent crash test regulations in japan, and as such, have more stylish bumpers (they're smaller, and look better. The GT-S rear bumper, by contrast, looks like a park bench).

Even though the SR-5 has the AE86 chassis, it does not have the 4A-GE, rather only the single OHC 4A-C (c stands for california emissions, so techincally, its just 4A) thats carbed and doesn't have quite the umph behind it the 4A-GE does. It also doesn't have the disc brake rear-end, and no SR-5 ever came with a LSD option.

You do not want to import a japanese version of the AE86, as the pricetag to buy one (in japan they're just as expensive as they are over here, if not more so), ship it, and then make it STREET LEGAL would be so astronomical its not worth it. (unless you want to drive it around illegally). Best just to find a 1985-1987 Corolla GT-S and go with that. Its practically the same thing, minus RHD.

FWDsucks 11-23-2009 07:28 PM

I've both seen both the gts is a coupe right? and the japanese one is a hatch? I like the hatch better. Is a big pain in the ass to import an ae-86? i really dont care if its rhd. Is it like a skyline or is it easier to import?

4agze 11-23-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FWDsucks (Post 4848)
I've both seen both the gts is a coupe right? and the japanese one is a hatch? I like the hatch better. Is a big pain in the ass to import an ae-86? i really dont care if its rhd. Is it like a skyline or is it easier to import?

first the only difference about the AE86 in Japan vs the USA is the bumpers and we didnt get the levin, we did have the hatch and the coupe. I think you got the all wrong information, let me introduce you to our club4ag reference guide, everything you want to know about AE86, trueno/levin, 4ag's
http://www.club4ag.com/technical_main.htm

S2KtoFT86 11-23-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 4846)
Are we...

Are we being trolled?

Oh hell with it, troll or not, i'll bite.

The Corolla GT-S IS an AE86. All AE86 stands for is the chassis designation: A-Engine type (4A), E- Corolla, 8-8th generation of the series, 6- 6th model of the generation.

Look under the hood of any GT-S or SR-5 (model years 1984-1987) and on the firewall you'll see at the very top "AE86". The difference comes in on the actual vincode, where GT-S's start out with "JT2AE88" and SR-5's have "JT2AE86". This doesn't matter anyways, as those aren't chassis codes, they're vin codes, for registration purposes. BOTH cars are AE86 chassis'.

The mechanicals between the GT-S and the Japanese variants GT-V and GT-Apex (I use both ,since both cars came with options that the GT-S has) are practically the same, save the difference in MAP vs. MAF for intake, along with emission parts installed. They all have the 4A-GE Twin Cam 16valve engine, 5spd transmission, and 4-wheel disc brakes.

The japanese cars are slightly lighter due to the less stringent crash test regulations in japan, and as such, have more stylish bumpers (they're smaller, and look better. The GT-S rear bumper, by contrast, looks like a park bench).

Even though the SR-5 has the AE86 chassis, it does not have the 4A-GE, rather only the single OHC 4A-C (c stands for california emissions, so techincally, its just 4A) thats carbed and doesn't have quite the umph behind it the 4A-GE does. It also doesn't have the disc brake rear-end, and no SR-5 ever came with a LSD option.

You do not want to import a japanese version of the AE86, as the pricetag to buy one (in japan they're just as expensive as they are over here, if not more so), ship it, and then make it STREET LEGAL would be so astronomical its not worth it. (unless you want to drive it around illegally). Best just to find a 1985-1987 Corolla GT-S and go with that. Its practically the same thing, minus RHD.

Holy shite man, your knowledge is awesome!! :wub: Oh, and even though this wasn't a troll, I still need a reason to use this emoticon: :dnftt:

OldSkoolToys 11-23-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 4854)
first the only difference about the AE86 in Japan vs the USA is the bumpers and we didnt get the levin, we did have the hatch and the coupe. I think you got the all wrong information, let me introduce you to our club4ag reference guide, everything you want to know about AE86, trueno/levin, 4ag's
http://www.club4ag.com/technical_main.htm

Pretty sure my information is spot on. But yeah, I should've linked Club4ag to begin with.:)

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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86
Holy shite man, your knowledge is awesome!! :wub:

The AE86 is one of my all-time favorite cars: period. When a car is like that, I soak in information every-which way.

I can do it with Mk3 Supras as well if you want.:)

FWDsucks 11-23-2009 11:14 PM

I read articles on that site its interesting but where can i get one either one, a japenese ae86 or an americanized ae86.I just want to know where I can get one in good condition because i went on the classifed of that forum and thier all in pretty shitty condition.

4agze 11-23-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FWDsucks (Post 4874)
I read articles on that site its interesting but where can i get one either one, a japenese ae86 or an americanized ae86.I just want to know where I can get one in good condition because i went on the classifed of that forum and thier all in pretty shitty condition.

most of the AE86 in the US are in bad to ok condition due to old age, rust and most drifting. if you can wait check the forum every now and then a clean but in a high price will come. shipping a AE86 is rare due to high price and even in Japan AE86 is getting rare, I my self took a year to find a perfect chassis for my SR5 project (6years ago)

usually Ill tell people not to buy AE86, best way to do this is buy a ok condition rolling chassis and restore it, put it together by your self.

OldSkoolToys 11-23-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 4876)
most of the AE86 in the US are in bad to ok condition due to old age, rust and most drifting. if you can wait check the forum every now and then a clean but in a high price will come. shipping a AE86 is rare due to high price and even in Japan AE86 is getting rare, I my self took a year to find a perfect chassis for my SR5 project.

I just noticed you changed your ride over to SR-5, from the Accord.


Did you just pick it up over the last days?

Pics plz?

OldSkoolToys 11-23-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 4876)

usually Ill tell people not to buy AE86, best way to do this is buy a ok condition rolling chassis and restore it, put it together by your self.

Depends on what you find. An unmolested GT-S with slightly faded paint and the owner, not knowing what it is, selling for only ~$1200? Guess that doesn't really happen much anymore in SoCal, but out here in the east, there are still plenty of unmolested AE86's to be found from unsuspecting owners.

4agze 11-23-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 4877)
I just noticed you changed your ride over to SR-5, from the Accord.


Did you just pick it up over the last days?

Pics plz?

lol no i just changed it cuz its stupid my avatar is a AE86 and my profile says i drive a accord, but I still have my SR5 for 6 years now well 6 years non NOV 25
its the same white kouki on this topic
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...p?t=126&page=3

OldSkoolToys 11-24-2009 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 4882)
lol no i just changed it cuz its stupid my avatar is a AE86 and my profile says i drive a accord, but I still have my SR5 for 6 years now well 6 years non NOV 25
its the same white kouki on this topic
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...p?t=126&page=3

oh THAT car. Hardly an SR-5 anymore.:bellyroll:

Heh, I'll have had my GT-S for 6 years exactly on MAY 25, next year.


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