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Wes B. 09-09-2012 02:18 PM

Aftermarket Gear Sets?
 
In the past, companies like Quaife, Kaaz, Jubu Racing, and even TRD made aftermarket gear sets for the sportiest cars in Toyota's lineup. Do these or any other companies plan on producing gear sets for the MT FR-S's/BRZ's?

I don't know about any other MT owners, but the one gripe I have about the car is the fuel consumption. The engine consumes a good amount of fuel given its size. On top of the close ratio and dog engagement gear sets that should hit the market, I would love to see a 6th gear replacement for highway driving (ie. swap the 0.767:1 gear out for a 0.58-0.63:1 gear).

Opposed 09-09-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes B. (Post 430514)
In the past, companies like Quaife, Kaaz, Jubu Racing, and even TRD made aftermarket gear sets for the sportiest cars in Toyota's lineup. Do these or any other companies plan on producing gear sets for the MT FR-S's/BRZ's?

I don't know about any other MT owners, but the one gripe I have about the car is the fuel consumption. The engine consumes a good amount of fuel given its size. On top of the close ratio and dog engagement gear sets that should hit the market, I would love to see a 6th gear replacement for highway driving (ie. swap the 0.767:1 gear out for a 0.58-0.63:1 gear).

That may happen, but not too popular given the money and work involved. The most common thing I think will be just replacing the ring and pinion in the diff. It was popular in the S2k community. I ran 4.77 gears in mine compared to the 4.10's.

thermobox 09-09-2012 02:21 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11264

Wes B. 09-09-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thermobox (Post 430520)

Yes, I've seen this part of the forum, and there isn't any information about aftermarket MT gear sets.

Wes B. 09-09-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Opposed (Post 430519)
That may happen, but not too popular given the money and work involved. The most common thing I think will be just replacing the ring and pinion in the diff. It was popular in the S2k community. I ran 4.77 gears in mine compared to the 4.10's.

I see...

I don't want to change the ring and pinion because it will hurt the overall performance of the vehicle. Whereas, If I simply swapped out 6th gear, it would only be used as a highway gear, and it wouldn't hurt the performance from 1st to 5th.

Opposed 09-09-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes B. (Post 430536)
I see...

I don't want to change the ring and pinion because it will hurt the overall performance of the vehicle. Whereas, If I simply swapped out 6th gear, it would only be used as a highway gear, and it wouldn't hurt the performance from 1st to 5th.

Yea, understood.

gmookher 09-09-2012 03:38 PM

it doesnt have to hurt the car

when I supercharge, i will be looking for a r&p

flawedchemical 09-09-2012 11:48 PM

I've been impressed with my mileage...I managed 37mpg on a trip to Houston from NE Louisiana. I also pulled 41mpg over about 100 miles with the cruise set on 55. And I've barely been able to get mine below 30mpg while flogging it pretty good throughout a whole tank. Sounds like I got a sipper while you got a gulper!

czar07 09-10-2012 02:24 AM

lol. You want performance AND ridiculous economy?

subatoy 09-10-2012 02:54 AM

The cost of replacing gears will be more than any money u will save in gas with the new ratio. Lets say u get 2-3mpg better it would take u god knows how many years to get your money back.

There are better alternatives for fuel economy like a good tune maybe air filter, light weight pulley, light weight components in general to reduce car's weight.

What mpg are you getting?

TonyJZX 09-10-2012 07:31 AM

there's some basic faulty logic here

gearsets are expensive because they're made for people who race them

gearsets tend to be replaced in the 1-4 gears since these are the most used in racing

you want to buy a 6th, remove the box, open up the box and just replace THAT gear just so that you can get a slightly taller top gear?

LOL?

serious?

i wouldn't even do it for the final drive for economy purposes

i would do it for better acceleration purposes

Wes B. 09-10-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by flawedchemical (Post 431195)
I've been impressed with my mileage...I managed 37mpg on a trip to Houston from NE Louisiana. I also pulled 41mpg over about 100 miles with the cruise set on 55. And I've barely been able to get mine below 30mpg while flogging it pretty good throughout a whole tank. Sounds like I got a sipper while you got a gulper!

I usually get between 31-33mpg's on the highway going between 70-80 mph.

Quote:

Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 431383)
lol. You want performance AND ridiculous economy?

It'd be nice...

Quote:

Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 431402)
The cost of replacing gears will be more than any money u will save in gas with the new ratio. Lets say u get 2-3mpg better it would take u god knows how many years to get your money back.

There are better alternatives for fuel economy like a good tune maybe air filter, light weight pulley, light weight components in general to reduce car's weight.

What mpg are you getting?

31-33, but, with an OD ratio closer to the AT variants, I could be getting above 40 consistently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyJZX (Post 431560)
there's some basic faulty logic here

gearsets are expensive because they're made for people who race them

gearsets tend to be replaced in the 1-4 gears since these are the most used in racing

you want to buy a 6th, remove the box, open up the box and just replace THAT gear just so that you can get a slightly taller top gear?

LOL?

serious?

i wouldn't even do it for the final drive for economy purposes

i would do it for better acceleration purposes

I'm just wondering if it would be a possibility in the future...

gmookher 09-10-2012 11:24 AM

noobs...performance uses gas....economy saves gas...choose one
look at the visconti thread; 24mpg, but nobody ia about to complain at 300hp

Wes B. 09-10-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 431763)
noobs...performance uses gas....economy saves gas...choose one
look at the visconti thread; 24mpg, but nobody ia about to complain at 300hp

Why choose one when you can have both! :thumbup:


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