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Jozy 08-30-2023 08:24 PM

Starter Replacement - Stripped Starter Bolt
 
Hey all, my starter went out. Started doing the work today following the YouTube guide posted on the forum. Seemed easy enough, then taking off the lower bolt that holds the starter in was a PIA! Came out crazy stripped and not sure how the damage is on the transmission / engine block.

I'm looking into using a tap but the ones I've seen don't seem deep enough. Can I even use a tap without dropping the transmission?
Would it be a terrible idea to just secure it with one bolt?
Kind of at a dead end at the moment. What do yall suggest?]

blsfrs 08-30-2023 09:23 PM

What are the length of the bolts? It's possible the transmission has been out and someone put in a bolt that was too short. A longer bolt might catch enough threads to hold.

Jozy 08-30-2023 09:34 PM

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It's an M10 x 1.25 about 3in long below the head. I'm pretty sure its factory I ordered a set from the dealership.
I did have my clutch replaced about 3 years ago I'm thinking that's when it got cross threaded.

NoHaveMSG 08-30-2023 10:10 PM

Drop trans and helicoil it. That hole is toast. Sorry.

Ultramaroon 08-30-2023 11:15 PM

I died a little inside. :(

Jozy 08-30-2023 11:36 PM

Been dead all day lmao
I was hoping there was an alternative but it's looking like dropping the tyranny might be the way.
I know a diy shop I can do it myself about 40 mins away from me.
Would it be dumb to hook up the new starter bolt it down with one bolt then drive out there to do the fix? I'm guessing it'd be fine but now I'm overthinking it a bit

humfrz 08-31-2023 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jozy (Post 3591421)
Hey all, my starter went out. Started doing the work today following the YouTube guide posted on the forum. Seemed easy enough, then taking off the lower bolt that holds the starter in was a PIA! Came out crazy stripped and not sure how the damage is on the transmission / engine block.

I'm looking into using a tap but the ones I've seen don't seem deep enough. Can I even use a tap without dropping the transmission?
Would it be a terrible idea to just secure it with one bolt?
Kind of at a dead end at the moment. What do yall suggest?]

Well, Bubba suggests you get a new bolt, smear it up good with Loctite (Red), screw it in there and see if it holds.

:thumbsup:

(well now, at first Bubba just wanted to weld the starter in place, but, I talked him out of that - :iono:)

Ultramaroon 08-31-2023 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jozy (Post 3591445)
Been dead all day lmao
I was hoping there was an alternative but it's looking like dropping the tyranny might be the way.
I know a diy shop I can do it myself about 40 mins away from me.
Would it be dumb to hook up the new starter bolt it down with one bolt then drive out there to do the fix? I'm guessing it'd be fine but now I'm overthinking it a bit

That's actually not a bad idea. One screw will be enough for a while. Don't go cinching it down extra tight. ;)

"dropping the tyranny" haha

Here's how I keep the engine from flopping forward.

Jozy 08-31-2023 11:26 AM

I've never fixed threads before. If I go that route do I need to up from a 1.25 to a 1.50 or what's the best way to go about that?
I looked into the heli coil and got even more confused ��

WNDSRFR 08-31-2023 11:27 AM

You could just leave the starter out and push start the car.

NoHaveMSG 08-31-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jozy (Post 3591470)
I've never fixed threads before. If I go that route do I need to up from a 1.25 to a 1.50 or what's the best way to go about that?
I looked into the heli coil and got even more confused ��


10mm is the diameter. 1.25 or 1.5 is the pitch of the threads. So if the stock bolt is 10mm x 1.25 then you need a 10mm 1.25 helicoil kit. The kit usually comes with a tap and drill bit in the instructions along with the insert tool. I’d recommend looking it up on YouTube. Should be a “how to” or three on there.

NoHaveMSG 08-31-2023 01:09 PM

Timeserts are also good. Just keep in mind it is really important you drill and tap the threads needed for the repair insert straight or you are going to have problems. Especially a bolt that long.

bcj 08-31-2023 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3591454)

Just added a link to a knot diagram site in your engine strap thread.

Ultramaroon 08-31-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bcj (Post 3591484)
Just added a link to a knot diagram site in your engine strap thread.

Yesss! Thanks!


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