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funkjaw 09-28-2022 10:37 AM

Dual purpose street/rally cross coilovers
 
Looking for coil overs that I can raise above OE height for rally cross, set at OE height for daily driving, and go lower than OE height for everything else like drift events and such. Tall order? Probably.... But I happened to stumble upon these which might fit that bill:
https://www.gorillaoffroadcompany.co...32161694220350

Anyone have any experience these Gorilla Silverback coilovers? Any suggestion for other coilovers that might accomplish my goals?

Car is K24 swapped using the Kpower kit

Thanks----

DarkPira7e 09-28-2022 11:56 AM

Have you considered removable spacers? I can't comment on efficacy or reliability, but it's fast and simple

blsfrs 09-28-2022 12:24 PM

I'm a suspension noob. Does changing ride height change toe and camber too?

cmiovino 09-28-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3549513)
I'm a suspension noob. Does changing ride height change toe and camber too?

Yes. Typically if you lower the car, camber "negatively increase". AKA, you might go from -2.0 to -2.5.

Then anytime camber changes, toe changes. Adding camber bolts for example, usually toes you out. I remember when I added camber bolts for an additional degree of camber, it toed the front out 1/8".

marco_mc22 09-28-2022 01:52 PM

Reiger 3 ways… the best.

funkjaw 09-29-2022 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3549500)
Have you considered removable spacers? I can't comment on efficacy or reliability, but it's fast and simple

This might be a great idea actually!

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco_mc22 (Post 3549555)
Reiger 3 ways… the best.

Yup I did some digging and apparently Reiger will basically make me anything I want if I give them my end goals... issue is it will be expensive as all hell haha almost as much as the car is worth. So I'll likely figure out a cheaper route.

strat61caster 09-29-2022 07:23 PM

Leave oem height, no aftermarket setup is as soft as oem springs to handle the big bumps, put Bilstein B6 on for better ride control and durability, add desired amount of camber, send it until something breaks. Tune bumpstops for like $100 if necessary.

Adjusting ride heights and alignment multiple times per year is a pain in the ass, you’re going to waste 1-2 hours of your life changing setup for each event? Gross. If you want a “do it all setup” you’re likely not trying to win anything so KISS - keep it simple stupid. For me time driving > time wrenching.


Edit: dirtfish uses a reiger front strut and a bilstein Motorsport rear damper, looks like about a $5k setup.
https://dirtfish.com/archive/the-imp...pension-setup/

grumpysnapper 10-01-2022 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by funkjaw (Post 3549769)
Yup I did some digging and apparently Reiger will basically make me anything I want if I give them my end goals... issue is it will be expensive as all hell haha almost as much as the car is worth. So I'll likely figure out a cheaper route.

I did the same thing with a hand made set of WRC Ohlins made from scratch for my car, in Holland...and I can confirm its mega expensive (and that was after I think he eased the costs for me because he enjoyed the project so much), and takes months of logistics and manufacture.

Ultimately it was worth it for me, they are genuinely mind blowing astonishing, but it is overkill for a road car pretending to be a rally car (you simply can't get the length of travel you really need).

I run it at normal road height with 16" wheels and the ride is absolutely gorgeous...well sorted rally suspension is totally magic on less than perfect surfaces.

funkjaw 10-18-2022 01:55 PM

UPDATE
 
I contacted Flatoutsuspension via Facebook and told them about my weird desire for my car to be DD, Track, Drift, and Rally-X ready. They suggested they make me a custom version of their "Lite" coilovers so it gives me +- 1" adjustability from OEM height. Also told them that I had K24 swapped the car so they will make a small tweak to spring rates.
https://flatoutsuspension.net/products/brz-grl

Ordered them, total cost was $1600

Will update this thread once I get em in.

imnotsureaboutbrz 10-18-2022 04:44 PM

good luck, I'm curious.

Pat 10-18-2022 05:05 PM

You have competing goals. If it does A very well, it won't do B or C very well. Spending more money means you'll have less compromise. But at any amount you spend, you'll still be making sacrifices in the areas for which it is not optimized.
If you're willing to make that compromise....well, that's your choice. That's also what I have chosen. But I went into it eyes wide open. And my range goes from a performance street setup to time trials on 200 TW tires. Your range is much bigger, which means more compromise.

funkjaw 10-19-2022 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3552887)
You have competing goals. If it does A very well, it won't do B or C very well. Spending more money means you'll have less compromise. But at any amount you spend, you'll still be making sacrifices in the areas for which it is not optimized.
If you're willing to make that compromise....well, that's your choice. That's also what I have chosen. But I went into it eyes wide open. And my range goes from a performance street setup to time trials on 200 TW tires. Your range is much bigger, which means more compromise.

I do agree! In my case I don't have any aspirations to be competitive, just wanna have fun without destroying the car on the dirt (hence the lift) so this works out. Should be a lot of fun in the end!

funkjaw 01-20-2023 07:21 PM

Update
 
I ended up getting Flatout GR-Lite coilovers and started a review thread here:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152318

Spawn_Of_Creation 01-21-2023 04:29 PM

When you lift, you need rear subframe spacers to adjust where the rear wheels sit in the wheel well. Having only coilovers to lift will mess with handling due to the angles.


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