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TommyW 02-11-2021 10:16 AM

Civic R crate motor
 
Hmmmmm

https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/v...wCWhMxvb-wsNF4

whataboutbob 02-11-2021 11:15 AM

https://www.enginebuildermag.com/201...-k20c1-engine/


"...The K20C1 is a direct injected, turbocharged, 2.0L engine that produces 306 hp and 295 lb.-ft. of torque from the factory..."

TommyW 02-11-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by whataboutbob (Post 3405959)
https://www.enginebuildermag.com/201...-k20c1-engine/


"...The K20C1 is a direct injected, turbocharged, 2.0L engine that produces 306 hp and 295 lb.-ft. of torque from the factory..."

With Honda Reliability

Ashikabi 02-11-2021 12:30 PM

But is it cheaper thank a turbo K24?

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jflogerzi 02-11-2021 12:32 PM

Limited run of 200 I think and its like 8K....

TommyW 02-11-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3405988)
Limited run of 200 I think and its like 8K....

9 out the door ready to go

Ashikabi 02-11-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3405988)
Limited run of 200 I think and its like 8K....

Doesn't sound all that attractive

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TommyW 02-11-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3405985)
But is it cheaper thank a turbo K24?

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The K24 when built right is pretty damn tough to beat for sure.

DarkSideFRS 02-11-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3405974)
With Honda Reliability

yup

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3405988)
Limited run of 200 I think and its like 8K....

some ppl who had issues after performing the valve spring recall spent over $10k to get a replacement fa20... i think $8k is a steal for a legendary motor

TommyW 02-11-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS (Post 3406073)
yup



some ppl who had issues after performing the valve spring recall spent over $10k to get a replacement fa20... i think $8k is a steal for a legendary motor

That was me. I went with a bulletproof IAG shortblock and spent 11K turn key.
I toyed with the idea of going for something with more power or even throwing a turbo on however as far as reliability going much over stock power then you're dealing with a car that just isn't engineered for it for track duty.

Tcoat 02-12-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS (Post 3406073)
yup



some ppl who had issues after performing the valve spring recall spent over $10k to get a replacement fa20... i think $8k is a steal for a legendary motor

The people that paid over $10 included all the labour to remove and replace the engine.
To do this swap you are looking at $9K just for the engine. There will still be all the costs invo;ved in a swap. Even doing it yourself you would be lucky to come in under $12K. If you had to pay somebody well...

Icecreamtruk 02-12-2021 11:41 AM

For a track car I can see this swap happening. For a street car, forget it, not a chance you're going to get canbus fonctionning for cheap (or at all) so it'll be a hacked job with the engine running and the rest of the car electronics worked on miracles and facebook likes. For a track toy, I can see this as an interesting option to an LS swap. Also, the 305hp number is on the type R civic, which has catalytic converters and is factory tuned with emissions and fuel usage as a concern. In a full free flowing exhaust with an agressive tunning, this will probably be closer to 350 or so, putting it into v8 power territory.

TommyW 02-12-2021 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3406204)
The people that paid over $10 included all the labour to remove and replace the engine.
To do this swap you are looking at $9K just for the engine. There will still be all the costs invo;ved in a swap. Even doing it yourself you would be lucky to come in under $12K. If you had to pay somebody well...

Probably around 15K when all the smoke clears. Guys spend close to that or more I'd imagine on some FA20 builds.

Ashikabi 02-12-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk (Post 3406267)
For a track car I can see this swap happening. For a street car, forget it, not a chance you're going to get canbus fonctionning for cheap (or at all) so it'll be a hacked job with the engine running and the rest of the car electronics worked on miracles and facebook likes. For a track toy, I can see this as an interesting option to an LS swap. Also, the 305hp number is on the type R civic, which has catalytic converters and is factory tuned with emissions and fuel usage as a concern. In a full free flowing exhaust with an agressive tunning, this will probably be closer to 350 or so, putting it into v8 power territory.

You can get full CAN functionality. But it won't be cheap. Probably looking at spending a little more than current K swaps. There are a couple suppliers now for K swap kits I believe

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