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slowmow 10-27-2020 03:10 PM

make me less dumb - how tight is too tight for brake pads?
 
Hey all,

Just got some custom-made track pads from Raybestos/Porterfield - they were ground from a larger pad footprint. Some I had use a file on the backing plate edges to get them to fit in the caliper - but some are still TIGHT. With heat expansion, I'm worried that they might not move in and out as freely as they are supposed, and might drag, causing more heat, causing more sticking... etc.

Should I just drink a beer and forget it? File more off so they slide in/out more easily?

Thanks all.

DarkPira7e 10-27-2020 03:11 PM

They have to slide in and out freely. If they don't, you're going to run into trouble.

CSG Mike 10-27-2020 05:29 PM

With the retention clips, you should be able to get them in/out readily with just a tiny bit of tension.

What's necessitating a custom-made pad?

rice_classic 10-27-2020 06:57 PM

You want some slop and for racetrack I don't recommend retainer clips. I've had more hangups and issues with retainer clips than I care to admit before I threw them all away and life was grand.

On my CRX I used to buy pads from Porterfield for an S2000 then I would use a file to remove 1 or 2mm on the end tabs to fit in my calipers. The reason for buying the S2k pads was they were larger and got me more "meat" which translates to more heat sink.

nico_rsx 11-02-2020 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 3378893)
You want some slop and for racetrack I don't recommend retainer clips. I've had more hangups and issues with retainer clips than I care to admit before I threw them all away and life was grand.


Any disadvantage of running without the retainer clips?


I bought new OEM brake pads for the winter (came with new clips), and I had to grind/file the backplate near the tabs because they were too tight...

rice_classic 11-02-2020 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico_rsx (Post 3380015)
Any disadvantage of running without the retainer clips?

Not in 16 years of W2W racing.

CSG Mike 11-02-2020 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico_rsx (Post 3380015)
Any disadvantage of running without the retainer clips?


I bought new OEM brake pads for the winter (came with new clips), and I had to grind/file the backplate near the tabs because they were too tight...

Just noise

Westen86 11-02-2020 06:41 PM

I had to grind down the corners of the WinMax W3 pads I bought. Maybe 2-3mm on one side. You should not need tools to put in or take out pads. They sort of "click" into place. Not really, but very very little tension.

ZionsWrath 11-03-2020 01:19 AM

Take out old retaining clips. Clean any rust on the caliper bracket with a file before installing new clips. That is usually what causes this issue. But sometimes aftermarket pads are not perfect. Just make sure rust isn't the culprit first

Westen86 11-03-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 3380250)
Take out old retaining clips. Clean any rust on the caliper bracket with a [wire brush] before installing new clips. That is usually what causes this issue. But sometimes aftermarket pads are not perfect. Just make sure rust isn't the culprit first

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