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iff2mastamatt 05-28-2020 10:44 AM

Bad design, or bad luck?
 
After my air conditioning recently failed in my '18 BRZ, I brought it to the dealer for a warranty repair. The dealer notified me that the A/C condenser had a huge hole in it, likely from road debris, and would not be covered under warranty. Given that the car is relatively new, I'm mulling some options for repair as A/C will be essential for me in the DC summers. Has anyone else ever has this issue on their BRZs especially the '17+ models? Should I chalk it up to bad luck and move on? Let me know your thoughts.
A/C condenser damage

https://imgur.com/gallery/ESKOoXr

NWFRS 05-28-2020 11:02 AM

Those usually hit my windshield.

Opie 05-28-2020 11:04 AM

It's bad luck...good news is if you are mechanically inclined you can replace the condenser and recharge the A/C yourself pretty easily and cheaply. Most auto part stores loan the vacuum pump and A/C gauges for free.

Sapphireho 05-28-2020 11:10 AM

Wow. Do you have a grill?

iff2mastamatt 05-28-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3335743)
It's bad luck...good news is if you are mechanically inclined you can replace the condenser and recharge the A/C yourself pretty easily and cheaply. Most auto part stores loan the vacuum pump and A/C gauges for free.

I appreciate the suggestion, as the repair quotes seem to be around $750-$1000 around my area. The part is about $160 but most labor rates run $150 per hour around here.

Quote:

Wow. Do you have a grill?
Yes, you can see it in the image url. I'm considering adding some zip ties to prevent this from happening again.

Opie 05-28-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt (Post 3335750)
I appreciate the suggestion, as the repair quotes seem to be around $750-$1000 around my area. The part is about $160 but most labor rates run $150 per hour around here.

You can get a new TYC Condenser on Amazon for around $90 (new Subaru Condenser is $360), 16oz can of R134a refridgerant is around $20, loan the A/C equipment will result in $110 in parts, removing, replacing and recharging the A/C will take you 2-4 hours and save you $640-$890.

If you were closer I'd do it for you for $100 if you bought the parts.

Good video's for what to do after you've replaced the condenser:
Pulling a vacuum to remove moisture and air from the system prior to recharging it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdCa3feGvg

Recharging using a can of freon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I56qmoTqTIk

FRS/BRZ requires 12oz (+/-1oz)

p1l0t 05-28-2020 12:03 PM

Yeah that sucks. It's something easy enough to watch a quick youTube video and replace though I imagine. If it's anything like the WRX you only need like a flat head and a socket wrench to do the whole job. EDIT: oops [emoji51] I guess a compressor is a little different than a radiator haha.

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ToySub1946 05-28-2020 01:02 PM

There's really no such thing as bad luck. But there is Shit Happens.

This is Not a common occurrence. My FRS has been round trip across the USA 5 times with no such problem...but I do have plenty of nicks, scratches and lost paint due to flying objects, including rocks thrown by Nebraska State Lawn mowing equipment (roof damage), tiny pieces of pebbles caught in wiper blades (locally behind an open semi-trailer in the rain) which caused scratched windshield. Just keep looking forward in life....

It won't Buff Out, but it's not Totaled either.


>All should be covered by collision insurance. You just must pay the deductible.<

>If your collision deductible is $500 or less, probably best to call your insurance company.<

As shown in videos above you need special equipment in order to evacuate the system even if you can replace the condenser yourself. There's probably an additional part needing replacement...a desiccant, which would be within an a/c receiver-drier or accumulator.

Opie 05-28-2020 01:22 PM

This is true, insurance will cover it...less your deductible.

p1l0t 05-28-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3335790)
This is true, insurance will cover it...less your deductible.

And then jack your rates for 5 years because you filed a claim...

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evomike 05-28-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 3335787)

>All should be covered by collision insurance. You just must pay the deductible.<

>If your collision deductible is $500 or less, probably best to call your insurance company.<

this would fall under a comp claim if reported correctly

Tcoat 05-28-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3335860)
And then jack your rates for 5 years because you filed a claim...

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If you can say it was moving and hit you then it would be comprehensive and (usually) won't affect your rates. Pretty hard to make a convincing case in these circumstances though.

Yoshoobaroo 05-28-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3335866)
this would fall under a comp claim if reported correctly

Only if the rock was moving when you hit it. :bonk:

And they will still jack your rates for 5 years for a comp claim.
Sorry, I meant 'you won't be eligible for a few discounts'. :bs:

Opie 05-28-2020 05:45 PM

Stick an arrow in it and tell them you found it that way...


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