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ziad.k 05-08-2020 06:14 PM

Notchy Automatic Transmission
 
Hello Everyone,


I'm new to the forum, i'm glad i found a forum where i can read and share my experience about this car!


So my car have around 85K KM on it, i was driving my car without any issues, until 2-3 days ago, the shifting between gears up and down sometimes feels notchy, i went to a local mechanic and we checked the Tranny oil and damn it lacks a little bit, so we added around 1.5 Killos, after adding i drove it around but it still got the same feeling, sometimes it shifts smoothly, and sometime it just notch a little bit, so do you think something got broken inside the Transmission? currently i've drove around 300KM after refill but it's still notchy.

I don't mind having this notchy feeling as long as it does not go worse, so do you think this will go worse or it will stay as it is ? or will it heal after a while?

Note: The notchy feeling appears on all gears.

Thanks for your help!

86TOYO2k17 05-08-2020 07:03 PM

You need to follow the transmission leveling procedure to make sure it is at the precise level.

Decep 05-08-2020 08:14 PM

You're also almost at 60k, i would probably drain and refill the ATF.

humfrz 05-09-2020 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3328720)
You're also almost at 60k, i would probably drain and refill the ATF.

^ there you go.

ziad.k 05-09-2020 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3328712)
You need to follow the transmission leveling procedure to make sure it is at the precise level.

Hello, i did not find any precise instruction on the internet everyone kept saying refull untill it start dripping out from the fill hole and that's what i did


Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep
You're also almost at 60k, i would probably drain and refill the ATF.



Already did oil change at 60KM and bought OEM ATF Oil. it was called Toyota WS, as far as i remember!


Could it be something else ? i mean not the tranny? can you help me diagnose the issue ?? i have a Launch Scanner (forgot the model) but it's a decent one, i checked if there is any faulty Codes in the tranny and the engine, there is absolutely nothing.

Halo_2 05-09-2020 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziad.k (Post 3328836)
Hello, i did not find any precise instruction on the internet everyone kept saying refull untill it start dripping out from the fill hole and that's what i did

It's on here, you have way too much oil in there.

ziad.k 05-09-2020 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo_2 (Post 3328925)
It's on here, you have way too much oil in there.


Please link! thank you very much!

radroach 05-09-2020 04:44 PM

Toyota and Lexus has a specific fill procedure for their automatic transmissions. The fluid needs to be leveled at a specific temperature. I would guess best approximated by just turning the car on for 30 seconds?

https://demos.starbase7.net/t3Portal..._rm_index.html

See under sections Drivetrain > Automatic Transmission Fluid > Replacement

ls1ac 05-09-2020 04:49 PM

I wonder what notchy means in an auto? hard shift ,slow shift , hesitation , jerky, Only up shift, only down shift, both? Using the paddles, Not using them? Cold, hot?

radroach 05-09-2020 04:53 PM

@ls1ac sounds about right but also add drivetrain lash clunks from the transmission and differential and subframe mounts going worn.

ziad.k 05-09-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1ac (Post 3329035)
I wonder what notchy means in an auto? hard shift ,slow shift , hesitation , jerky, Only up shift, only down shift, both? Using the paddles, Not using them? Cold, hot?

it's a hard shift that makes you feel a notch feeling it happens when it release the old gear and moves into the new one from high to low or from low to high, cold.... hot.. it does not mater, it just appear randomly sometime it shift smoothly sometimes you can feel the tranny shacking while shifting.

Okay i'm not a mechanic but i was reading here that i might need to change the release bearing ? does the Automatic version of the 86 come with this bearing ? if yes is there a way i can make sure of it ? because my car never had a major repair before and i don't want to play around with it...
https://86speed.com/revised-oem-toyota-release-bearing-frs-brz-86


and thank you for the help, i love this car and i don't want to ignore the issue and make it get worse...

86TOYO2k17 05-09-2020 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziad.k (Post 3328836)
Hello, i did not find any precise instruction on the internet everyone kept saying refull untill it start dripping out from the fill hole and that's what i did
Already did oil change at 60KM and bought OEM ATF Oil. it was called Toyota WS, as far as i remember!

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It is in the owners manual as well as been written out on these forums a dozen times. Several of which by me. The transmission is run on hydraulic pressure if the level is not filled to the precise amount it will not run correctly.

There is a procedure to get the dash into tranny temp mode, i just use a scangauge to tell me the precise temp so i skipped that step. Otherwise it is pretty simple,

Drain fluid from drain hole, add 2.1 US quarts of ATF , start car and slowly shift from P-R-N-D-N-R-P stop for 10seconds at each point, 20 seconds on D, repeat twice.

If doing a full “flush” you will need to repeat this 4 total times. Most people just do this once every 15k miles. If going 60k+ its recommended to do the entire “flush” so do it 4 times.

Now to properly level it you will need to have the car turned on and bring the trans temp up to 108F and quickly level it as you can not go above 117F or you need to stop and cooldown/restart. Once temp is at 108F with the car still on pull the leveling plug (note this is not the fill plug or drain plug) the fluid should come out of the leveling plug if it does not add more to fill plug if it does come out you will want to replug the leveling plug when the fluid is draining out as a very thin thread basically just before it would start to drip/dribble out instead of be a solid stream but still very thin like a thread.

While doing this I face-timed another phone so i could look at trans temp so i could lay under car and watch it hit 108F and make sure i had level plug capped before 117F.

If this process is not followed 100% you will most likely have weird transmission problems.

x808drifter 05-09-2020 06:19 PM

Take it to a mechanic/dealer.

Halo_2 05-09-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3329089)
Take it to a mechanic/dealer.

Thats what the OP did.


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