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Joyriding_86 10-20-2019 01:45 PM

Help - rpm drops after flashing E85 tune.
 
So like I said, after flashing e85 with oft the car is running kind of bad. Before hand I had flash the stg1 oft tune no problems, the car pulled hard and smooth. I ran the tank low filled with e85. Gave it about 20+ miles just low rav driving. And from the first drive from flash I noticed the rpm drops almost to stall when I release the clutch. And the rpm bounce around when driving and letting off the clutch without giving it gas. Ltft and stft is both between 7-/+. I did change and set the launch control to a lower rpm I don't think that would mess with the tune. Should I reflash it with stock e85 tune? Would it have to relearn e85 if I do? Should I give more time to adjust?

Thank for any advice!


Tldr; after filling up and flashing e85 car runs rough and drops rpm

BlOody_BoOger 10-20-2019 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyriding_86 (Post 3268399)
So like I said, after flashing e85 with oft the car is running kind of bad. Before hand I had flash the stg1 oft tune no problems, the car pulled hard and smooth. I ran the tank low filled with e85. Gave it about 20+ miles just low rav driving. And from the first drive from flash I noticed the rpm drops almost to stall when I release the clutch. And the rpm bounce around when driving and letting off the clutch without giving it gas. Ltft and stft is both between 7-/+. I did change and set the launch control to a lower rpm I don't think that would mess with the tune. Should I reflash it with stock e85 tune? Would it have to relearn e85 if I do? Should I give more time to adjust?



Thank for any advice!





Tldr; after filling up and flashing e85 car runs rough and drops rpm

Try reflashing it again sometimes the file doesnt flash correctly also make sure you uploaded the correct file specific to your cars i.d

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Joyriding_86 10-20-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlOody_BoOger (Post 3268402)
Try reflashing it again sometimes the file doesnt flash correctly also make sure you uploaded the correct file specific to your cars i.d

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Will the car have to relearn E85? I have ran stg1 no problem before. I'll try to rewrite later today. Would the LC change have anything to do with it?

BlOody_BoOger 10-20-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyriding_86 (Post 3268406)
Will the car have to relearn E85? I have ran stg1 no problem before. I'll try to rewrite later today. Would the LC change have anything to do with it?

You would need to let the ECU learn again, if it didn't upload properly, just drive it for like 10miles chill and see what happens


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BlOody_BoOger 10-20-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyriding_86 (Post 3268406)
Will the car have to relearn E85? I have ran stg1 no problem before. I'll try to rewrite later today. Would the LC change have anything to do with it?

Also when plugging in and out your oft make sure the car is off. Plug in your oft and then turn the car on. If you're connecting and disconnecting it with the car running you can cause the ECU to go into limp mode.

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Joyriding_86 10-20-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlOody_BoOger (Post 3268418)
Also when plugging in and out your oft make sure the car is off. Plug in your oft and then turn the car on. If you're connecting and disconnecting it with the car running you can cause the ECU to go into limp mode.

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Thanks, and I do unplug and plug sometime while running. I will retune and run lightly for 20 miles and see what happens. Cause if anything I'll just go back to stage 1, I felt more tq and hp in that tune.

Thanks

BlOody_BoOger 10-20-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyriding_86 (Post 3268420)
Thanks, and I do unplug and plug sometime while running. I will retune and run lightly for 20 miles and see what happens. Cause if anything I'll just go back to stage 1, I felt more tq and hp in that tune.



Thanks

Lol if you do it correctly e85 should feel like you just gave your car an adrenaline shot. It's much more aggressive and and the the throttle response is a lot more sensitive

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Joyriding_86 10-20-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlOody_BoOger (Post 3268423)
Lol if you do it correctly e85 should feel like you just gave your car an adrenaline shot. It's much more aggressive and and the the throttle response is a lot more sensitive

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Would you think me changing the LC rev limiter could of played apart?

steve99 10-20-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyriding_86 (Post 3268426)
Would you think me changing the LC rev limiter could of played apart?


Its possible if you set the LC or FFS rev limt delta to strange values you will get issues.


When you flash a car the flash is either sucessfull or fails if you got a partial flash the car wont even start as checksum routine in ecu will fail.


Flash a un altered e85 tune and see how it goes


Ie no lc or ffs mods and no mods for pops


Just standard oft e85 tune




Are you running stock intake ??

Joyriding_86 10-20-2019 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 3268434)
Its possible if you set the LC or FFS rev limt delta to strange values you will get issues.


When you flash a car the flash is either sucessfull or fails if you got a partial flash the car wont even start as checksum routine in ecu will fail.


Flash a un altered e85 tune and see how it goes


Ie no lc or ffs mods and no mods for pops


Just standard oft e85 tune




Are you running stock intake ??

Omg Steve! Yes everything is stock minus a borla axle back.
I just re flashed with the e85 stock tune and the car is still running funky. Just sitting here. The rpm is all over the place I just flashed about 10mins ago and was doing the adjusting by driving under 4k rpm
@steve99

aceangel 10-28-2019 08:35 PM

I had a similar problem with stalling before but figured it out. My air filter (a K&N drop-in) was old and was clogging up the intake. I changed the filter and it started to idle fine without stalling. Might want to check the air filter.

Lantanafrs2 10-28-2019 11:15 PM

My car idled like crap for 30 miles or so after flashing e85 tune. Cleared up though

Joyriding_86 11-06-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aceangel (Post 3270545)
I had a similar problem with stalling before but figured it out. My air filter (a K&N drop-in) was old and was clogging up the intake. I changed the filter and it started to idle fine without stalling. Might want to check the air filter.

I didn't even think of that. I'm going to Change it out tomorrow. The car drives alot better now. It's just cold starts are taking 2-3 time before running. Thanks mate.

Joyriding_86 11-06-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3270585)
My car idled like crap for 30 miles or so after flashing e85 tune. Cleared up though

Yeah I think I jumped the gun on everything even though I have it 70+ miles to learn.


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