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Matthew_ 09-29-2019 03:48 AM

How much can a stock frs transmission take?
 
I don't see too many people talking about the frs transmissions max power, pretty new to it, does anybody know how much max hp and torque it can take reliably?and what you can do to make it more reliable and achieve higher hp and torque?

Spawn_Of_Creation 09-29-2019 07:15 AM

Stock manual tranny's are known to break on stock power. Anything above 225-250hp and you need a better clutch. When you do your clutch, do the bearing, aftermarket clutch fork and joint. However hp numbers wise, 300ish supercharged, 350ish turbo is the general rule. Going above 400hp you are probably looking at helical synchromesh or straight cut gearset and carbon fiber syncro rebuild. At this point it's going to be cheaper to do a t56 or cd009 swap.

86MLR 09-29-2019 07:24 AM

Rated at 250nm from manufacturer

86TOYO2k17 09-29-2019 10:15 AM

Stock auto rated at 220ft lbs, SSP upgrades to handle 400ft lbs.
Stock manual rated at 184ft lbs, upgrade clutch depending on which you choose can increase rating to about 300ft lbs before your gears “usually 3rd or 4th” will have a much higher likeliness to shear. Also synchros will wear out pretty quickly more power you add. Jacks transmission has some good manual upgrades to handle lots of power.

HaXx 09-29-2019 10:32 AM

yeah, trans are rated by torque, not hp.

Matthew_ 09-29-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3262331)
Stock auto rated at 220ft lbs, SSP upgrades to handle 400ft lbs.
Stock manual rated at 184ft lbs, upgrade clutch depending on which you choose can increase rating to about 300ft lbs before your gears “usually 3rd or 4th” will have a much higher likeliness to shear. Also synchros will wear out pretty quickly more power you add. Jacks transmission has some good manual upgrades to handle lots of power.


Will an oil cooler also help keep the tranny reliable? And possibly allow more torque?

Ultramaroon 09-29-2019 09:08 PM

Power has absolutely nothing to do with syncro wear. Poor technique causes all wear beyond that from typical use.

bulldog11267mad 09-29-2019 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew_ (Post 3262312)
I don't see too many people talking about the frs transmissions max power, pretty new to it, does anybody know how much max hp and torque it can take reliably?and what you can do to make it more reliable and achieve higher hp and torque?

mine went out on the dyno at 380 torque. transmission was hard to shift sometimes with less than that.

Clutch Dog 09-29-2019 09:49 PM

Its a generally accepted notion that anything about 350 ft lbs will break the transmission. Its an Aisin design I believe AZ6 coded. the upgraded internals of the AY6 are about 400 ft lbs capable. But generally speaking we are talkin about clutch dumps with massive sticky tires. if you keep the tires sane it shouldnt be a huge huge issue.

or just keep the car near stock power levels and drive the piss outta it?

Mr.ac 09-29-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew_ (Post 3262312)
I don't see too many people talking about the frs transmissions max power, pretty new to it, does anybody know how much max hp and torque it can take reliably?and what you can do to make it more reliable and achieve higher hp and torque?

Simple. Sell pos under powered car. Get any V6/8 sports car.

Clutch Dog 09-29-2019 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3262484)
Simple. Sell pos under powered car. Get any V6/8 sports car.

literally the ecoboost mustang is your next step up and makes 170 more ft lbs of torque

humfrz 09-30-2019 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew_ (Post 3262312)
I don't see too many people talking about the frs transmissions max power, pretty new to it, does anybody know how much max hp and torque it can take reliably?and what you can do to make it more reliable and achieve higher hp and torque?

Welcome to our forum, Matthew_ - :clap:

Yep, shift smoothly and apply the power through the transmission gradually.

And that don't cost nutten.


humfrz

humfrz 09-30-2019 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3262484)
Simple. Sell pos under powered car. Get any V6/8 sports car.

:confused0068:

Don't you have any Civic Type Rs to sell him - :iono:


humfrz

Matthew_ 09-30-2019 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3262466)
Its a generally accepted notion that anything about 350 ft lbs will break the transmission. Its an Aisin design I believe AZ6 coded. the upgraded internals of the AY6 are about 400 ft lbs capable. But generally speaking we are talkin about clutch dumps with massive sticky tires. if you keep the tires sane it shouldnt be a huge huge issue.

or just keep the car near stock power levels and drive the piss outta it?

It's an awesome car, I don't want crazy power out of it, I just want a little more juice, I drive the piss out of it stock as is with just suspension and beefier tires.


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