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CTOWN360 12-16-2018 06:20 PM

Help!!!
 
Had to change the engine in my 2013 FR-S. I got engine in and put a new battery in also. When I went to start the car I get all the normal lights and dings but the car will not turn over. I tested the starter and it checks good. I checked the inhibitor relay and I get power to it when the key is in the start position. Same with the starter relay. I’ve checked all the fuses and they are fine. Any help is appreciated.

DarkPira7e 12-16-2018 07:22 PM

Does it crank at all?
If yes - is there gas in the car? Spark plugs?
If no - Crankshaft / cam position sensor, did you check them? Did you put the engine in, or did someone else?

humfrz 12-16-2018 07:33 PM

You might try putting a big wrench on the crankshaft pulley bolt, and turning it, to make sure the engine isn't frozen - :iono:

If it's a MT, did you check the clutch switch thing?


humfrz

CTOWN360 12-16-2018 08:06 PM

It doesn’t turn over at all. I put the engine in. I will check both. Thank you

CTOWN360 12-16-2018 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3164300)
You might try putting a big wrench on the crankshaft pulley bolt, and turning it, to make sure the engine isn't frozen - :iono:

If it's a MT, did you check the clutch switch thing?


humfrz

Engine will spin with the crank bolt.

humfrz 12-16-2018 11:50 PM

Does the starter even "click"?

Even though the battery is "new" will it pass a load test?

Are the battery connections good and clean?

You might try grounding the negative terminal to the frame with some jumper cables?


humfrz

scion fr-s 12-17-2018 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTOWN360 (Post 3164294)
Had to change the engine in my 2013 FR-S. I got engine in and put a new battery in also. When I went to start the car I get all the normal lights and dings but the car will not turn over. I tested the starter and it checks good. I checked the inhibitor relay and I get power to it when the key is in the start position. Same with the starter relay. I’ve checked all the fuses and they are fine. Any help is appreciated.

See if the radiator fans spin by hand!

DarkPira7e 12-17-2018 01:18 AM

Check all grounds, the starter may not be grounded. You said you checked all fuses so ecu fuse isnt the culprit, and if it's not cranking at all, probably isn't a sensor

CTOWN360 12-17-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3164358)
Does the starter even "click"?

Even though the battery is "new" will it pass a load test?

Are the battery connections good and clean?

You might try grounding the negative terminal to the frame with some jumper cables?


humfrz

No I have not done a load test on the battery other then sticking in my other car and having it start just fine. There is no click. i have checked the signal wire going to the starter when it is in the start position and it is not getting power.

CTOWN360 12-17-2018 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3164377)
Check all grounds, the starter may not be grounded. You said you checked all fuses so ecu fuse isnt the culprit, and if it's not cranking at all, probably isn't a sensor

I made sure to hook them all up but maybe they need better cleaning. will check again.

CTOWN360 12-17-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTOWN360 (Post 3164294)
Had to change the engine in my 2013 FR-S. I got engine in and put a new battery in also. When I went to start the car I get all the normal lights and dings but the car will not turn over. I tested the starter and it checks good. I checked the inhibitor relay and I get power to it when the key is in the start position. Same with the starter relay. I’ve checked all the fuses and they are fine. Any help is appreciated.

UPDATE-- Things i have tried.

1) out the key in the start position and move the gear shift from park to neutral. Nothing
2) checked power to the starter from the batter. Good. Checked for power to other wire while in the start position.. Nothing.
3) pulled the inhibitor relay. put the car to the start position and one off the 4 wires gets power.
4) pulled the starter relay and same results as the inhibitor relay.

5) pulled the crank shaft position sensor. Did an OHMs check.. checks good.

humfrz 12-18-2018 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTOWN360 (Post 3164459)
UPDATE-- Things i have tried.

1) out the key in the start position and move the gear shift from park to neutral. Nothing
2) checked power to the starter from the batter. Good. Checked for power to other wire while in the start position.. Nothing.
3) pulled the inhibitor relay. put the car to the start position and one off the 4 wires gets power.
4) pulled the starter relay and same results as the inhibitor relay.

5) pulled the crank shaft position sensor. Did an OHMs check.. checks good.


Update?


:popcorn:



humfrz

LunarStorm86 12-18-2018 11:56 PM

does the instrument cluster show that its in park or neutral when you have it in either? you say you swapped engines, double check the connectors at the back of the engine where the trans section ties into the engine harness. could be connector not snapped in all the way. I doubt you blew a fuse swapping an engine unless you dropped a tool across both terminals while they were still connected. even then, I doubt it. check the connectors like I said and get back with us.

CTOWN360 12-19-2018 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunarStorm86 (Post 3164969)
does the instrument cluster show that its in park or neutral when you have it in either? you say you swapped engines, double check the connectors at the back of the engine where the trans section ties into the engine harness. could be connector not snapped in all the way. I doubt you blew a fuse swapping an engine unless you dropped a tool across both terminals while they were still connected. even then, I doubt it. check the connectors like I said and get back with us.

That connector was the first one I looked at. Yes it shows park and neutral and changes as I shift it.


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