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morswestford 11-26-2018 12:40 PM

Seibon Carbon Fiber roof turning cloudy after four years, how to fix?
 
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I purchased a Seibon carbon fiber roof overlay for my BRZ four years ago. Earlier this year the carbon fiber has gotten cloudy and it's only getting worse. It's almost like my roof is turning completely white.

Does anyone know how to fix this? I took to a body shop four years ago and they followed the instructions and installed it correctly.

Gunman 11-26-2018 12:49 PM

My guess would be any UV blocking in the resin has broken down, or didn't exist.

morswestford 11-26-2018 01:29 PM

Is it fixable? How do you fix something that's on the inside resin?

Are my only options
1) remove entirely, go back to oem roof
2) remove and replace with new carbon fiber roof layer? (why would i do that again if this is what happens?)


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Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 3158450)
My guess would be any UV blocking in the resin has broken down, or didn't exist.


DarkPira7e 11-26-2018 01:49 PM

This is common for carbon fiber components, you can find a lot of information in a myriad of placed. Generally wet sanding and re-applying clear is probably your only bet to save it.

kch 11-26-2018 04:38 PM

Agreed with above. Most CF trim pieces are only gel coated and lack any UV protection. Solution now is to wet sand and clear coat. Solution in the future is to take new pieces to get a clear coat before installing.

8RZ 11-26-2018 05:15 PM

Easy fix, sand and re-clear.

morswestford 11-27-2018 07:52 AM

thanks everyone for the advice.

does anyone know how much is a good price to pay for a body shop to sand it down and add a clear coat on it? most body shops i know of don't really specialize in carbon fiber. do you think most shops would be able to handle that?

and it's probably cheaper to go the wet sand and clear coating route than removing the carbon fiber and going back to OEM roof because then i would have to get the roof re-painted because of all the glue and whatever is stuck between the roof and carbon fiber layer.


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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3158562)
Easy fix, sand and re-clear.

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 3158547)
Agreed with above. Most CF trim pieces are only gel coated and lack any UV protection. Solution now is to wet sand and clear coat. Solution in the future is to take new pieces to get a clear coat before installing.

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3158477)
This is common for carbon fiber components, you can find a lot of information in a myriad of placed. Generally wet sanding and re-applying clear is probably your only bet to save it.


toast 11-27-2018 10:53 AM

It is trivial to do this yourself if you have a workspace. Go to your favorite AutoZone-type place, grab a pack of 800 grit sandpaper. Apply tape to any neighboring part edges and wetsand with a spray bottle. Order a can of SprayMax 2k high gloss clear. Mask off everything close and drape the rest of the car with a drop cloth of some sort. Spray 2 light coats and 1 final medium coat of the clear with 10 minutes of flash time in between coats. Most people will be done at this point. If you want to make it like glass wait at least 24 hours and wetsand with 2000 grit sandpaper and follow with polish.

morswestford 11-27-2018 01:09 PM

wow easier said than done, haha. i think i will just go to a body shop.

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Originally Posted by toast (Post 3158730)
It is trivial to do this yourself if you have a workspace. Go to your favorite AutoZone-type place, grab a pack of 800 grit sandpaper. Apply tape to any neighboring part edges and wetsand with a spray bottle. Order a can of SprayMax 2k high gloss clear. Mask off everything close and drape the rest of the car with a drop cloth of some sort. Spray 2 light coats and 1 final medium coat of the clear with 10 minutes of flash time in between coats. Most people will be done at this point. If you want to make it like glass wait at least 24 hours and wetsand with 2000 grit sandpaper and follow with polish.


kch 11-27-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by morswestford (Post 3158719)
does anyone know how much is a good price to pay for a body shop to sand it down and add a clear coat on it? most body shops i know of don't really specialize in carbon fiber.

Like $250? Maybe less if you do some prep work yourself.

They don't need to specialize in CF, as they won't get all the way through the gel coat. They just need to get rid of the oxidation. It'll be just like any other job for them.

spitfire481 11-27-2018 04:15 PM

we would charge around $300 to re-clear. I have had some carbon that has had gel coat failure all the way down to the weave. no way to tell until you start sanding it down

morswestford 12-02-2018 01:33 PM

awesome thanks for the advice.

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 3158809)
Like $250? Maybe less if you do some prep work yourself.

They don't need to specialize in CF, as they won't get all the way through the gel coat. They just need to get rid of the oxidation. It'll be just like any other job for them.

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Originally Posted by spitfire481 (Post 3158837)
we would charge around $300 to re-clear. I have had some carbon that has had gel coat failure all the way down to the weave. no way to tell until you start sanding it down



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