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Rustyoid 09-25-2018 06:00 PM

OEM Oil filters
 
Has anyone compared the OEM oil filters?

In Canada our Toyota brand filters are made in Taiwan, the Subaru filters are made in USA. Has anyone cut them open to compare construction, number of pleats, etc?

Summerwolf 09-25-2018 06:18 PM

Nope, never.

JIM THEO 09-25-2018 06:34 PM

Due to previous issues with USA made Subaru filters I buy always original Japanese oil filters only, just in case!

finch1750 09-25-2018 06:49 PM

Tokyo Roki only. Subaru PN 15208AA130

Prior made in US ones were garbage (like 5-10 years ago iirc), so I don't take any chances. Not sure if they have updated since then.

wolffbite 09-25-2018 06:59 PM

Subaru dealership near me only sells the japanese made ones, P/N 15208AA130

Had no idea they even had a version that was USA made.

In case your dealership doesn't sell them they can be found here in CAD:
https://www.ft86motorsports.com/suba...il-filter.html

FRSBRZGT86FAN 09-25-2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolffbite (Post 3137437)
Subaru dealership near me only sells the japanese made ones, P/N 15208AA130

Had no idea they even had a version that was USA made.

In case your dealership doesn't sell them they can be found here in CAD:
https://www.ft86motorsports.com/suba...il-filter.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustyoid (Post 3137416)
Has anyone compared the OEM oil filters?

In Canada our Toyota brand filters are made in Taiwan, the Subaru filters are made in USA. Has anyone cut them open to compare construction, number of pleats, etc?


If you have amazon prime this is the same one:

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Subar.../dp/B00ESTFGMQ

Idk how canada is cost wise with amazon prime and such but it's near the cost of the ft86motorsports version and of course almost everyone has a prime account, I bought 3 of them for the year, as I change my oil around 3 times a year with e85 and the mileage I drive, drain plug gaskets are also easy to get on prime, because when you order them at once 2 day shipping is grouped in. I use a fumoto valve though, so oil changes are a breeze.

Sapphireho 09-25-2018 07:35 PM

I too use the Japanese Subaru filters. I will stick with them. This from my last oil analysis after 15 months and about 7k miles:


"..A trace of insolubles shows excellent oil filtration.."

wolffbite 09-25-2018 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3137444)
If you have amazon prime this is the same one:

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Subar.../dp/B00ESTFGMQ

Idk how canada is cost wise with amazon prime and such but it's near the cost of the ft86motorsports version and of course almost everyone has a prime account, I bought 3 of them for the year, as I change my oil around 3 times a year with e85 and the mileage I drive, drain plug gaskets are also easy to get on prime, because when you order them at once 2 day shipping is grouped in. I use a fumoto valve though, so oil changes are a breeze.

Yeah on Canadian amazon they are $14.53 with prime shipping.

My local dealership sells them for ~$12. FT86 is only worth the discounted price if I'm buying other things and can get up to the $149 threshold for free shipping. I bought 3 last time so I have at least a years worth of filters for changes on hand.

I too put in a fumoto valve on my last change. It will take quite a few changes to break even on the cost of washers, but the ease of changing oil now far outweighs the cost of the valve imo.

Rustyoid 09-25-2018 08:15 PM

Thanks for the recommendations everyone!

If nobody has cut them open to compare yet I may just do so before my next oil change...

FRSBRZGT86FAN 09-26-2018 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolffbite (Post 3137463)
Yeah on Canadian amazon they are $14.53 with prime shipping.

My local dealership sells them for ~$12. FT86 is only worth the discounted price if I'm buying other things and can get up to the $149 threshold for free shipping. I bought 3 last time so I have at least a years worth of filters for changes on hand.

I too put in a fumoto valve on my last change. It will take quite a few changes to break even on the cost of washers, but the ease of changing oil now far outweighs the cost of the valve imo.

Interesting for me in the US its $8.91 so its actually cheaper than an aftermarket mobil one filter

I love the fumoto 108 as well, to anybody with e85 as well, makes it easier to change while the motor is still "hot" as well so I can get more of the oil out easier.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 09-26-2018 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustyoid (Post 3137475)
Thanks for the recommendations everyone!

If nobody has cut them open to compare yet I may just do so before my next oil change...

IF you could do that that'd be dope. It appears a mobil 1 M1 filter does similar performance as well.

Bonburner 09-26-2018 07:03 AM

someone cut them open on this forum somewhere .. many many years ago

wolffbite 09-26-2018 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonburner (Post 3137592)
someone cut them open on this forum somewhere .. many many years ago

Think I found it... this seems to compare the japanese made 15208AA130 to the USA made 15208AA160 (15208AA15A is the current part number for it?)

Looks like the 130 has 63 pleats vs. the 160/15A with only 56 pleats.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12392

ermax 09-26-2018 12:22 PM

On my last change I did A WIX 57830. I will be changing it this weekend or next. When I do I will cut it open and see how it looks. My understanding is it has a lot of media in it and the bypass pressure matches the OEM filter. Going to the dealer for the filter is a pain for me. I guess I could plan better and get OEM off Amazon though.


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