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flashburn 04-26-2018 08:44 AM

Can't always shift into 1st?
 
I've been having a problem over the last couple of weeks where when I'm at a stop I sometimes can't get into 1st. Every time this happens, if I go back down, and then try again, it always works (clutch down the entire time). Double clutching has no effect.

Is this likely a synchro issue? I'd be a bit surprised since I'm pretty gentle with 1st, meaning I never engage it unless I'm going 5MPH or less. It has 62K miles on it.

edit: Also forgot to mention that for the last 10K or so miles I've had an aftermarket ACT XT Clutch/Flywheel.

8RZ 04-26-2018 10:21 AM

Was the engine/trans warmed up? People have complained about that in colder climates. Many have also switched trans and diff fluids; a quick search will give you better answers.

PandaSPUR 04-26-2018 10:22 AM

Yea happens to me sometimes. I have to go into 2nd then first.

flashburn 04-26-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3077852)
Was the engine/trans warmed up? People have complained about that in colder climates. Many have also switched trans and diff fluids; a quick search will give you better answers.

Yeah, it's happened both after long drives and at cold start. I'm in Florida, and it's been pretty hot lately (85F+).

jasonojordan 04-26-2018 11:56 AM

When was the last time you changed your trans fluid?

flashburn 04-26-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 3077915)
When was the last time you changed your trans fluid?

It was changed at 55K miles, which was also when the Clutch/FW was replaced.

jasonojordan 04-26-2018 12:34 PM

OEM fluid or?

flashburn 04-26-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 3077938)
OEM fluid or?

Pretty sure it was Red Line.

jasonojordan 04-26-2018 01:37 PM

What variant do you know? Just curious as I switched to redline mt-90 this spring and hope to see how it drives. I was running motul trans fluid and was not a fan of it at cold temps/start up temps for the very issue your dealing with now.

flashburn 04-26-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 3077971)
What variant do you know? Just curious as I switched to redline mt-90 this spring and hope to see how it drives. I was running motul trans fluid and was not a fan of it at cold temps/start up temps for the very issue your dealing with now.

Not sure, but I doubt it's the same issue, as mine will happen at any temperature, it just isn't consistent.

jasonojordan 04-26-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 3077984)
Not sure, but I doubt it's the same issue, as mine will happen at any temperature, it just isn't consistent.

OEM Shifter and knob?

Lakitu 04-26-2018 02:20 PM

I've noticed that if the RPMs are above a certain limit, it will not let you shift into 2nd or 1st. I always just thought of it as a safety mechanism. Its like it locks you out. "Access Denied...until you slow the fuck down". So I never downshift below 3rd when coming to a stop before a light, but I do only when I'm already going at a steady crawling pace around stores.

flashburn 04-26-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakitu (Post 3078028)
I've noticed that if the RPMs are above a certain limit, it will not let you shift into 2nd or 1st. I always just thought of it as a safety mechanism. So I never downshift below 3rd when coming to a stop before a light, but I do only when I'm already going at a steady crawling pace around stores.

Makes no sense, I've never noticed that.

At 62K miles, this is a new occurrence, and definitely isn't something I would consider normal.

HKz 04-26-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakitu (Post 3078028)
I've noticed that if the RPMs are above a certain limit, it will not let you shift into 2nd or 1st. I always just thought of it as a safety mechanism. Its like it locks you out. "Access Denied...until you slow the fuck down". So I never downshift below 3rd when coming to a stop before a light, but I do only when I'm already going at a steady crawling pace around stores.

you're a noob, you need more clutch & rev matching practice.. Rev matching into 1st is admittedly tricky considering how much work the synchros have to do but it is not necessary. If you are still rolling over 5 MPH just go into 2nd..if you are struggling with downshifting into 2nd, then ya need a mentor.

As for OP it is tough to diagnose these hard shifting problems over text and a video probably wouldn't really help either..best to get a buddy who is experienced with MTs and have him feel it. Dealership could help if ya don't know anyone..


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