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JustSomeGuy 04-23-2018 01:08 PM

Harness Bar?
 
if i wanted to put in a harness for my car what would be the safest way to do so? as of right now i daily and gonna try to make it out to the track this summer and always liked the look and feel of them when driving but heard a harness bar isnt the safest option and dont wanna do a full on cage as im not that extreme

Mr.ac 04-23-2018 04:13 PM

Get a bolt on one.
Before you go the track bolt it on. After bolt it off for daily driving comfort.

BigTuna 04-24-2018 08:34 AM

Here is an article about why it's not a great idea to run a harness bar and harness without a roll bar. It's specifically talking about a case with an older Civic, and I'm sure the twins have some more structural support than that, but it's still a good thought.

http://www.tracktuned.com/feed/2016/...oughts-on-them

Edit: the article comes up on my phone, but not my laptop.. sorry if it doesn't work.

norcalpb 04-24-2018 12:25 PM

The right way, unfortunately, is to get a welded-in half cage with a built in harness bar.

JustSomeGuy 04-24-2018 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigTuna (Post 3076729)
Here is an article about why it's not a great idea to run a harness bar and harness without a roll bar. It's specifically talking about a case with an older Civic, and I'm sure the twins have some more structural support than that, but it's still a good thought.

http://www.tracktuned.com/feed/2016/...oughts-on-them

Edit: the article comes up on my phone, but not my laptop.. sorry if it doesn't work.

good read and concerning aha but originally i was gonna get just a harness bar from B pillar to B pillar but i would always be nervous of an accident aha. probably just end up staying with stock then aha thanks

JustSomeGuy 04-24-2018 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3076831)
The right way, unfortunately, is to get a welded-in half cage with a built in harness bar.

dang, but its the price you pay for safety i guess. thanks for the input

ST185RC 04-24-2018 02:31 PM

Slippery slope. first the harness bar, then the 4pt harness, then you realize it looks super dumb with a stock seat so you have to get a bucket. Oh, doesn't look symmetrical? uh oh gotta get a passenger bucket and harness on that side because if it's the stock 3pt harness it'll look dumb and wear out the seat pads where the seatbelt contacts.

Go to the track with the 3pt stock seatbelts first. Plenty of people do and are in that "enthusiast" category. Unless you are all-out racing, 4pt harness on a street car is overkill.

Code Monkey 04-24-2018 03:21 PM

I run the Essex harness bar with a full understanding I may not make it when the car rolls over. At the track, my setup is a significant improvement from the stock seat belts but still lacking as compared to proper bucket seats. I use stock seat belts on the street, with the harnesses tucked behind the seats.

x808drifter 04-24-2018 04:33 PM

Stock belt with Bucket.

arkanist 04-24-2018 04:55 PM

Don't run 4pt for anything where you are going fast. It is good in off-road / low speed situations but once you start going quicker you have to worry about submarining.

Kiske 04-24-2018 11:48 PM

There is an attachment for your stock buckle you can buy to lock down the seatbelt to prevent you from skiding in the stock seats. It's no cage+harness but a geat addition for spirited driving and tge icasionak hpde.

Ft86 speedfactory has some and even a video/demo on their youtube page.

SCQTT 04-25-2018 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkanist (Post 3076999)
Don't run 4pt for anything where you are going fast. It is good in off-road / low speed situations but once you start going quicker you have to worry about submarining.

Even 5 points are starting to go out of favor for 6 and 7 points. It is all about keeping your pelvis locked in and keeping it from rotating.


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