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arren123 01-29-2018 03:55 PM

2017 BRZ Cracks on Timing Cover is this normal?
 
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This is on a new 2017 BRZ Limited manual with 1050 miles on it.
Is this normal? See all the cracks on the timing cover? It's on the the other half of the cover as well.
The cracks are rough. When I tried wiping it down with a blue shop towel it was tearing the towel. I don't remember seeing anything like this on any car I owned before.

jasonojordan 01-29-2018 04:02 PM

Looks like a flaw from the cast.

Newtothegrounds 01-29-2018 04:16 PM

I have the exact same on mine as well, just saw it the other day. I have 2016 with 10k on it. Not sure if it's a good, bad or doesn't matter thing.

bcj 01-29-2018 04:29 PM

Typical pour casting surface after cooling.
The outside doesn't need to be smooth so they don't bother machining it.
As long as there is no water or oil seeping out, it's a reflection of the low price paid for a new twin.

arren123 01-29-2018 05:46 PM

That is pretty lousy if they just left it unfinished. Not the typical quality that I expect from a Japanese car.

ichitaka05 01-29-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bcj (Post 3035632)
Typical pour casting surface after cooling.
The outside doesn't need to be smooth so they don't bother machining it.
As long as there is no water or oil seeping out, it's a reflection of the low price paid for a new twin.

^This, if there's a leak, bring it back to dealership and get it replaced.

I'll double check mine, but I think it was pretty smooth.

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Originally Posted by arren123 (Post 3035699)
That is pretty lousy if they just left it unfinished. Not the typical quality that I expect from a Japanese car.

Yeah, I'm surprised to see these kind of thing now days. I know Subaru doesn't have a high quality... but this is pretty bad.

bcj 01-29-2018 06:05 PM

American engine blocks were all sand cast and left rough on the outside since forever.
Only a few specialty billet machined blocks have ever been produced (relative to stock).
You can spend the time to file it all pretty, or you can pay a much higher price for the new vehicle.

My Alfa engine block from the 70's looked like this on the outside too.
They were considered cheap cars back then as well. Didn't stop them from being fun to drive.

ermax 01-29-2018 06:22 PM

Yeah this is fairly typical of any cast aluminium piece. No need to machine the exterior of a timing cover. It isn't for decoration.

humfrz 01-29-2018 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by arren123 (Post 3035596)
This is on a new 2017 BRZ Limited manual with 1050 miles on it.
Is this normal? See all the cracks on the timing cover? It's on the the other half of the cover as well.
The cracks are rough. When I tried wiping it down with a blue shop towel it was tearing the towel. I don't remember seeing anything like this on any car I owned before.

Just don't do that no more ....... that part don't need wiped off.

Like others have said ..... as long as it ain't leaken .... no problem.

;)


humfrz

arren123 01-29-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3035839)
Just don't do that no more ....... that part don't need wiped off.

Like others have said ..... as long as it ain't leaken .... no problem.

;)


humfrz

Ha! I wanted to see if the cracks were just water stains. The engine was still hot so I didn't want to touch it with my fingers.

No leaks, so I should be good. :cheers:

22R 01-30-2018 09:15 AM

Damm now Ima have to check mine out and see.......probably look the same.
As others have stated no leaks no problems


22R

Tokay444 01-30-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3035705)
^This, if there's a leak, bring it back to dealership and get it replaced.

I'll double check mine, but I think it was pretty smooth.



Yeah, I'm surprised to see these kind of thing now days. I know Subaru doesn't have a high quality... but this is pretty bad.

Why is this bad exactly? Do you have any idea how much MORE cost would be added to that part if they machined the entire outside surface, instead of just the mating surfaces?

Tcoat 01-30-2018 10:47 AM

My first job when I left the army was at an aluminum casting plant. I believe the covers are die cast not sand cast but it can be very hard to tell sometimes. Either way surface checking like the picture shows is from the mold binging slightly cold. It only affects the outer surface and happens every time there is a delay in a pour. Nothing to worry about since it just means the casting was made early in the shift or right after a break.

ichitaka05 01-30-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3036081)
Why is this bad exactly? Do you have any idea how much MORE cost would be added to that part if they machined the entire outside surface, instead of just the mating surfaces?

Function wise, nothing wrong. Visual wise, pretty bad. Japanese brand used to worry about these small things. That’s what made Japanese car quality standard different than other country’s cars.


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