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B T 01-23-2018 04:45 PM

Front Left (Driver) Brake Lockup
 
Under hard braking in a straight line, my driver's side front brake always locks up long before any others. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever locked up any other wheel at all. I've tried multiple sets of tires, track brake pads, ABS off, and finally moved to a 4 corner big brake package moving bias slightly to the rear, always with the same outcome.
I've had this issue since new under hard braking and have tried to single it down without too much success. All I can think it maybe there's a problem at the central split to each wheel. Has anyone else encountered the same issue?

churchx 01-23-2018 07:07 PM

If tires (multiple sets, and i guess that pressures were even) & brakes (misc pads & no abs & BBK) & diff (as front) are out of picture, what's left .. alignment?

cjd 01-23-2018 07:18 PM

Corner balanced?

strat61caster 01-23-2018 07:59 PM

How do you know it's doing that?

x808drifter 01-23-2018 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjd (Post 3032541)
Corner balanced?

All else being equal I'd go with that.
My miata did the same until I corner balanced the car.
It was way off before that though.

B T 01-25-2018 02:16 PM

Someone else has suggested corner balance as well, so maybe I'll go that route. It was having the same issue on stock suspension and coilovers.
Different sets of tires have been tested also. Alignment has been done several times due to various circumstances and doesn't seem to have made a difference.

x808drifter 01-25-2018 04:22 PM

Did you buy the car new?

B T 01-25-2018 06:01 PM

had it since new

cjd 01-25-2018 11:11 PM

What do you have done suspension-wise? It strikes me as really odd behavior, but I can concoct a possible way if the balance is messed up and the front swaybar is stiff enough relative to everything... I'm still skeptical. It brings me back to the question, how do you know that's the wheel locking up?

ls1ac 01-26-2018 12:59 AM

Hold on, you are able to "lock up" the front tire and get blue smoke with the ABS unit turned on? If so it is not working. Or are you hearing the ABS kicking in? Is it the ABS unit that you are hearing as it applies and releases the brakes to keep from locking up? That sound comes from the unit not the tires, and is located in front of the brake master cylinder.

Tcoat 01-26-2018 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls1ac (Post 3034068)
Hold on, you are able to "lock up" the front tire and get blue smoke with the ABS unit turned on? If so it is not working. Or are you hearing the ABS kicking in? Is it the ABS unit that you are hearing as it applies and releases the brakes to keep from locking up? That sound comes from the unit not the tires, and is located in front of the brake master cylinder.

This ^ makes the most sense.

B T 01-26-2018 01:41 PM

yeah, it'll smoke the front tire until I back off the brakes. I've felt ABS on plenty of cars in the past as well as on this car back when I first acquired it. I'm pretty sure the ABS isn't functioning correctly. There doesn't seem to be any ABS intervention at the point the tire locks up. I'm taking it in sometime soon to have the module replaced by subaru.

churchx 01-26-2018 02:29 PM

Wait a sec. In OP there was mentioned among tried out things ABS off. Now it'a about ABS not functioning correctly. Was it switched back at all? :D

ls1ac 01-26-2018 03:36 PM

OK, first you say it happened when you got the car and now you say you were aware of the ABS working when you got it???


This is interesting as you describe left front locking up first, the steering wheel would pull hard left and the car would try to go left when ever the brakes were used hard. Not a good car to drive.


(In a race car left front first is either a balance/bias issue or the right front caliper is sticking and is slow to engage and will not release as quickly as the left. Pulling first left then right. Should not admit it but have tried to finish a race like this, not fun in traffic.)


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