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Q2 11-26-2017 02:46 PM

Wide Body Wheels
 
What would be the size for wheels if I were to go to put on a widebody kit like the VR-S or a rocket bunny kit

incutebus 11-26-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Q2 (Post 3009815)
What would be the size for wheels if I were to go to put on a widebody kit like the VR-S or a rocket bunny kit

Fronts are +40mm rears are +65-70.

Depends on the version. V1 you can go with a 9.5 in the front with an effective offset of 0-20 whether you get that through spacers or have wheels specifically made in that offset (3p / replicas)

The rear you generally want an anywhere between a 9.5-11.5. The rears I'd run an 11 with an offset of 0-10. You can run a 9.5 as well but you'd need to run a much lesser offset like -35-45.

Theres a thread about this as well.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20429

I'm personally running a 9.5 in the front with an offset of -8 and an 11 in the rear with an offset of -7. I'd like to keep my offsets not too low due to being mounted further away from the hub which causes additional stress for the bearings. I know some people run stronger extended studs when they go anything aftermarket with offsets this low due to the additional stress.

churchx 11-26-2017 07:53 PM

Stronger wheel mount studs won't do a thing to change scrub radius and thus extra load on bearings. Just wheel centerline position vs that of stock. If one targets flushness with wide body kit, that extra load & heavier steering will be there no matter which studs are used and no mattter if wished for flushness offset is reached with specific sized wheels or spacers. Funilly, issues of very big scrub radius might be less with wider wheels/tires though, as to get same flushness, wheel center line don't need to be that much off to side as if with narrower wheels.

incutebus 11-26-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3009872)
Stronger wheel mount studs won't do a thing to change scrub radius and thus extra load on bearings. Just wheel centerline position vs that of stock. If one targets flushness with wide body kit, that extra load & heavier steering will be there no matter which studs are used and no mattter if wished for flushness offset is reached with specific sized wheels or spacers. Funilly, issues of very big scrub radius might be less with wider wheels/tires though, as to get same flushness, wheel center line don't need to be that much off to side as if with narrower wheels.

I was just mentioning stronger wheel studs due to having the center wheel line further off-axis.

churchx 11-26-2017 10:54 PM

incutebus: stock studs should be strong enough even then. About the only way one may need those extended studs, is not in case of large offset in general, but if that offset is reached using slip-on spacers, to get enough threads for lugnuts even if some stud length is "spent" on spacer portion. It's not the studs, that keep wheel in place, studs are actually rather weak if full weight loaded from side, it's the friction between wheel and hub. You torque lugnuts with same force even on wheels with more offset. Now if there is not sufficient friction between hub and wheel, such as untorqued lugnuts, you've got problem, if wheel hangs just on studs, that are not meant for that. But then again it would be problem also with stock wheels at stock offset.

incutebus 11-26-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3009909)
incutebus: stock studs should be strong enough even then. About the only way one may need those extended studs, is not in case of large offset in general, but if that offset is reached using slip-on spacers, to get enough threads for lugnuts even if some stud length is "spent" on spacer portion. It's not the studs, that keep wheel in place, studs are actually rather weak if full weight loaded from side, it's the friction between wheel and hub. You torque lugnuts with same force even on wheels with more offset. Now if there is not sufficient friction between hub and wheel, such as untorqued lugnuts, you've got problem, if wheel hangs just on studs, that are not meant for that. But then again it would be problem also with stock wheels at stock offset.

Great input church, I've learned something! Even though it's not my thread lol.


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