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Shit Luck 08-25-2017 05:26 PM

Swap issue: No starter trigger
 
So I am swapped.
Standalone to run engine, canbus is integrated.
I used the factory harness for everything else, but I get no starter when I turn the key.
Anybody have any ideas?

DustinS 08-25-2017 05:30 PM

What are you using to trigger starter?

Edit:
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That is the thick white/blue wire used to trigger the starter. That is directly attached to the ignition switch (well sorta). You don't need to do anything other than plug it on to the starter solenoid.

If you are looking for "Switch Power" for you harness. You can use that grey wire to power a relay as the trigger wire.

Quote:

Okay, Found my ignition source wire. I am going to run a relay (possibly Fan relay 2 that I removed earlier) to power the Ignition source for GM harness. Using the Grey C/Open relay trigger wires (IG2) to trigger ignition relay.

If you follow the Grey wire that comes from IG2 and C/Open relay it leads to the ECM ignition switch wire (from what I understand that is what it is on the ECM). This is the end of wiring for my swap until the MRS Device arrives.

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Edit: Hoping this didn't come across as harsh, just not wanting you to hurt anything.

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2968376)
What are you using to trigger starter?

I am not sure what you are asking.
The entire body harness is bone stock, so the factory relays and stuff.

DustinS 08-25-2017 05:40 PM

So factory Starter trigger wire then. White with blue tracer?

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 05:48 PM

I have seen these write ups.
I intentionally left the stock harness intact to keep it looking factory and make the wiring easier.

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2968385)
So factory Starter trigger wire then. White with blue tracer?

Yup it's all factory.
Like I said all I have done is unplug the engine harness at the main connector.

DustinS 08-25-2017 05:50 PM

Should just be able to use the factory trigger wire then. So thick white wire, blue tracer. Will be covered with the black plastic wire loom cover with grey electrical tape. Has a female spade connector on it if I am remembering correctly. Make sure clutch is down when starting as well

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2968396)
Should just be able to use the factory trigger wire then. So thick white wire, blue tracer. Will be covered with the black plastic wire loom cover with grey electrical tape. Has a female spade connector on it if I am remembering correctly. Make sure clutch is down when starting as well

Yeah it doesn't trigger...

DustinS 08-25-2017 06:06 PM

Manual or AT car?

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2968404)
Manual or AT car?

Manual...
I am thinking some how the immobilizer is involved.

DustinS 08-25-2017 06:10 PM

Base FRS Right? Can't tell from your instagram lol. Don't think Base FRS had an immobilizer

Wiring Schematic

Page 86 has the starter system wiring. Triple check everything there. Really weird.

If you don't have the factory ECU hooked up, it won't work either.

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 06:11 PM

Yeah it's a base 2013

Shit Luck 08-25-2017 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2968407)
Base FRS Right? Can't tell from your instagram lol. Don't think Base FRS had an immobilizer

Wiring Schematic

Page 86 has the starter system wiring. Triple check everything there. Really weird.

If you don't have the factory ECU hooked up, it won't work either.

I have the factory ecu but not the injector driver that was on the engine.

DustinS 08-25-2017 06:15 PM

Injector driver shouldn't matter

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