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scubastove 04-27-2017 08:36 PM

Drifting on Pilot Super Sports?
 
Hi all, I'm considering throwing on a set of PSS. Question though..
I'm a modest driver but every now and then like to get the tail end loose. Will I still be able to oversteer/drift with PSS? Or is the grip too much for the engine to break the wheels loose? Stock wheels FWIW, I'll be getting 225/45ZR17. Thanks!

TylerLieberman 04-27-2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scubastove (Post 2900362)
Hi all, I'm considering throwing on a set of PSS. Question though..
I'm a modest driver but every now and then like to get the tail end loose. Will I still be able to oversteer/drift with PSS? Or is the grip too much for the engine to break the wheels loose? Stock wheels FWIW, I'll be getting 225/45ZR17. Thanks!

You can still provoke the car to rotate. MPSS aren't really all that sticky of a tire. They're a great DD tire, but they aren't like RE71s or RS3s or anything like that.

I was still able to get my car to rotate and break loose with a little bit of provoking when I was running 18x9.5s on 265 width tires. It might not be as progressive, and the speeds necessary to do it may not be as low compared to the stock rubber band tires, but it's still easily doable.

scubastove 04-27-2017 10:37 PM

Interesting. Yeah, I can't see why a quick clutch kick won't break the tail loose. Thanks!

Stang70Fastback 04-27-2017 10:53 PM

Here's my car on 255-section MPSS still breaking them loose without too much effort... (stock power)

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TxCZ6Un104"]255 Section Michelin PSS: Yes Burnouts Are Still Possible - YouTube[/ame]

Impureclient 04-28-2017 01:33 AM

I went through mine in less than 8k miles and although I get sideways a little bit here and there, I don't track the car. I just bought some Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s in the same 225/45 that are getting installed on Monday.
I would look at all the reviews on them and see if you want to spend about $200 less for what appears to be a very comparable tire to the MPSS. And like everybody else said, it is easy to break the tire loose
when they were new and now that they are at the end of their life, they are sliding around at the least bit of provocation.

JDM4E 04-28-2017 03:16 AM

Check this out, they did exactly what you want to do, from stock to 225/45 MPSS

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqhHPssCXMA"]Tracking & Drifting - Long Term Scion FR-S - Everyday Driver - YouTube[/ame]

8RZ 04-28-2017 09:15 AM

Yes, I'm running 255 PSS in the rear and have no trouble getting the back end out, doesn't even need a clutch-kick.

JazzleSAURUS 04-28-2017 09:23 AM

So I think that the PSS is a really good tire, it communicates super well, it has a lot of grip without being super sticky and too much for what you're trying to do.

I run Bridgestone S-04's in 225/45-17, and I consider them to be very close to the PSS in dynamics, grippiness, etc. I always refer to them as the poor mans PSS, especially since every spring they have a $70 rebate.

I have no issues getting the rear end out with momentum, a clutch kick, or a bit of a launch and a snap of the wheel.

You'll like the PSS, but keep in mind if you're putting the tail out all the time, they won't last all that long. The S-04 is a bit cheaper so it's more palatable to run through them. :)

radroach 04-28-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM4E (Post 2900514)
Check this out, they did exactly what you want to do, from stock to 225/45 MPSS

Tracking & Drifting - Long Term Scion FR-S - Everyday Driver - YouTube

they said they were on the all seasons

JDM4E 04-28-2017 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 2900619)
they said they were on the all seasons

there is a close up in that video @ 11.57 that clearly says Michelin Pilot Super Sport

mav1178 04-28-2017 02:57 PM

Yes, but there are cheaper tires to drift on.


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