Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59)
-   -   Water/gurgling sound when braking? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116351)

FR-Sky 03-09-2017 01:13 AM

Water/gurgling sound when braking?
 
Hi, recently I changed my brake pad (Project Mu CR) and braking bleed for about 3 weeks ago.
There is a water/gurgling mix with brake friction grinding sound when braking at low speed(around 0-15mph) ,and seems like the brake not as bit as it used to.
I haven't done any bedding, I just drive normally, and possibly couple hard brake during the past 3 weeks.

What is the problem here? Improper bedding? I checked my brake fluid and the level is okay.

Thanks

FirstWinter 03-09-2017 03:04 AM

You have a video of the noise or a better description? Where's the sound coming from?

FR-Sky 03-09-2017 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstWinter (Post 2868492)
You have a video of the noise or a better description? Where's the sound coming from?

Its coming from driver side when braking at low speed, I can hear the friction on the rotor and some kinda water running sound.

Jajanken86 03-09-2017 03:28 AM

Gurgling kinda describes the sound my brakes make when I set off in the morning and the rust gets scratched off the rotors

Sent from my iDroid

FR-Sky 03-09-2017 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jajanken86 (Post 2868499)
Gurgling kinda describes the sound my brakes make when I set off in the morning and the rust gets scratched off the rotors

Sent from my iDroid

Lol, I wish it is just morning dust,, but it happens everytime i brake at low speed.

Mr.ac 03-09-2017 04:21 AM

Bleed it again.

It could be possible you didn't close the bleeder valve all the way close, and might have some air trapped in the lines.

renfield90 03-09-2017 11:16 AM

We're gonna need video. But my bet is your brakes just sound funny.

Check your coolant level. If there is actual water gurgling it's probably from there.

Tcoat 03-09-2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2868463)
There is a water/gurgling mix with brake friction grinding sound when braking at low speed(around 0-15mph) ,and seems like the brake not as bit as it used to.


Check to make sure both pads on the wheel are properly in place and not loose.

finch1750 03-09-2017 12:37 PM

Race pads make terrible sounds at low speed when cold. And cold for them can easily happen driving normally since they have higher operating ranges then other pads.

But a vid would help us guess more accurately

FR-Sky 03-09-2017 01:25 PM

Thanks guys, taking back to the shop today and will update.

FR-Sky 03-10-2017 03:06 AM

ok guys.....here is the update....
According to the mechanic, everything was fine...the bleed, rotor, except...
so the issue was...the surface of the brake pad's compound is degrading due to the item is storing too long...that's why the compound on top of the brake pad surface is very hard to bed in which causing the gurgling sound. Also, the mechanic said he had used 5 set of this brake pad and never have this problem. (We didn't buy at the same vendor).

dem00n 03-10-2017 08:53 AM

The part of the brake pad compound degrading due to storage sounds like BS, but everything else sounds right.

I have the Winmax W4 and if you list closely with slow braking, you'll get that gurgling sound.

Tcoat 03-10-2017 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 2869321)
The part of the brake pad compound degrading due to storage sounds like BS, but everything else sounds right.

I have the Winmax W4 and if you list closely with slow braking, you'll get that gurgling sound.

Yes it is BS. If you are buying brake pads that degrade from sitting on a shelf then you need to get them off your car right this second.

renfield90 03-10-2017 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2869253)
ok guys.....here is the update....
According to the mechanic, everything was fine...the bleed, rotor, except...
so the issue was...the surface of the brake pad's compound is degrading due to the item is storing too long...that's why the compound on top of the brake pad surface is very hard to bed in which causing the gurgling sound. Also, the mechanic said he had used 5 set of this brake pad and never have this problem. (We didn't buy at the same vendor).

Lol. NEVER go to this mechanic again - you can't put a price on trust, especially when it comes to your car. Brake pad compounds don't degrade from storing too long. The Project Mu CR is a mix of graphite and various metals, tell me how that's going to degrade or make it hard to bed in if it sits in a box?

He BS'd you because he's not going to make any more money from you on this job, and wants you to go away. How are you going to feel if he actually screws something up, you come back to him to get it fixed and he does the same trick to get you out the door?

Aggressive pads are known for not only sounding funny, but changing their sound through their life depending on the state of the transfer film on the rotors (among other things). I bet if you give them a good hard bedding in they will sound different.

My friend always tells me my pads sound like a spaceship. At this point I've tuned the noise out (or I'm losing my hearing) because I don't notice, it's part of the compromise of running a more aggressive pad.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.