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kuangxtc 12-09-2016 07:11 AM

ST Suspensions Sporttech Springs
 
Hey guys, I've searched ft86 forums and google, but 'ST' just won't show up in the search results, it's too short. With that said, does anyone have any experience with these lowering springs? They're made by ST, so I'm sure they're really good for the money. I'm searching for a spring that will work well with the stock struts and not blow them out prematurely, similar to how the RCE Yellow Springs are built for oem struts but the ST's are less expensive.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/st-s...rings-872.html

http://i.imgur.com/91MJuiS.png

Tor 12-09-2016 09:59 AM

I have no first hand knowledge just trying to help you out.

They have German TÜV which means they are street legal in Germany. Documentation is required for that:
http://docs.kwsuspension.de/ga56045-1201-12.pdf

From the documentation, it says they have a progressive spring rate and uses the stock bump stops.

Given that they are street legal and the authorities here are pretty rigorous they probably won't blow your shocks. If they work well is another matter...

wparsons 12-09-2016 11:06 AM

What are you hoping to get out of the springs?

kuangxtc 12-09-2016 02:57 PM

Quote:

"I have no first hand knowledge just trying to help you out.

They have German TÜV which means they are street legal in Germany. Documentation is required for that:
http://docs.kwsuspension.de/ga56045-1201-12.pdf

From the documentation, it says they have a progressive spring rate and uses the stock bump stops.

Given that they are street legal and the authorities here are pretty rigorous they probably won't blow your shocks. If they work well is another matter... "
Thanks for the info!


Quote:

What are you hoping to get out of the springs?

I only daily drive the car and want to minimize the wheel gap, but I wan't to keep the oem struts. I'm looking for a spring that was designed to be used with the oem struts and won't blow them out after a couple thousand miles. I did some research and the RCE yellows meet my criteria, but I can get the ST springs considerably cheaper (~$170 cheaper) so if they are high quality and lower my car without blowing out the struts, I'd be really happy.

Clipdat 12-09-2016 03:10 PM

IMO, save up for the RCE Yellows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuangxtc (Post 2811544)
Thanks for the info!





I only daily drive the car and want to minimize the wheel gap, but I wan't to keep the oem struts. I'm looking for a spring that was designed to be used with the oem struts and won't blow them out after a couple thousand miles. I did some research and the RCE yellows meet my criteria, but I can get the ST springs considerably cheaper (~$170 cheaper) so if they are high quality and lower my car without blowing out the struts, I'd be really happy.


wparsons 12-09-2016 04:12 PM

If you're not really pushing the car at all, and don't care what the handling balance (from spring rates) is like, then these should be fine. I'd personally go with the RCE Yellows or Swift Sport (I have swift sport FRS rates).

As for the costs... the ST's are only ~$70 cheaper, not $170. ($232 vs $299)

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/race...rings-475.html

8R6 12-09-2016 04:48 PM

Hotchkis springs are awesome for the money too and work well with the stock shocks

finch1750 12-09-2016 05:26 PM

Another vote for RCE yellows. I have no first hand knowledge of the ST springs but the Yellows are worth it.

kuangxtc 12-09-2016 06:31 PM

Quote:

If you're not really pushing the car at all, and don't care what the handling balance (from spring rates) is like, then these should be fine. I'd personally go with the RCE Yellows or Swift Sport (I have swift sport FRS rates).

As for the costs... the ST's are only ~$70 cheaper, not $170. ($232 vs $299)

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/race...rings-475.html
The only reason I'm considering is because of how well recieved their coilovers are and there's open box, but brand new set of ST springs I can get for $130.

I'll try to do some more research but the overwhelming consensus of ft86 is RCE's :)

Thanks!

solidONE 12-09-2016 06:52 PM

Doesn't look like they publish the spring rates. If the rates are good I'd be all over them for $130 for a new set. While ST is a reputable brand, I'd be a bit wary of suspension manufactures that don't disclose the specifics like spring rates. I suppose you can ask the customer service, but how can you be sure short of testing it yourself?

http://www.stsuspensions.com/st-susp...brz-65820.html

kuangxtc 12-09-2016 07:05 PM

Just called KW and they said the springs are progressive and don't have a rate and blatantly said these springs would be bad for OEM struts. Looks like I'm going with RCE's baby!

solidONE 12-09-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kuangxtc (Post 2811750)
Just called KW and they said the springs are progressive and don't have a rate and blatantly said these springs would be bad for OEM struts. Looks like I'm going with RCE's baby!

:laughabove:

Progressive springs also have spring rates. Take these Eibachs, for instance.

Spring Rate Front: 148-200-371lbs/in (Progressive)
Spring Rate Rear: 103-274-388lbs/in (Progressive)

https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...wering-springs

Lynxis 12-10-2016 01:29 AM

Was going to suggest maybe looking at Eibach Pro kit. The TRD springs are literally just rebadged versions of the pro kits so they shouldn't cause any issues with premature wear on stock struts.

Stats pulled directly from another thread:

Product: Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs
Front: claimed 1.0" vs actual 7/8" (rate: 3.6kg/mm)
Rear: claimed 1.0" vs actual 7/8" (rate: 4.9kg/mm)
Part No: 8210.5.140
MSRP: $359

D_Thissen 12-10-2016 01:38 AM

Another vote for RCE yellows :thumbsup:


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