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Tofurky 08-14-2016 04:51 PM

Autox Class Help
 
Not sure which class I'm in for Autox, which mods would I have to remove to run in STX. Currently, I am also unsure if I would be in SM or a street prepared class

Can someone help me clarify?

Exterior

Velox Motorsports Front Splitter
Velox Motorsports Front Endplates
Velox Motorsports Rear Diffuser
HT Auto Side Steps
HT Auto Rear Spats
TRD Canards
TRD Duckbill Wing
SARD LSR Wing
Toyota Badges
JDM Clear Corner Lights

Suspension

Fortune Auto 500 Series Coilovers (7k F, 8k R)
Perrin Front Sway Bar
SPC Rear Lower Control Arms
WRX Rear Sway Bar
Corner Balance and Alignment by Roger Kraus Racing

Engine

Perrin Intake Elbow
HKS Intake Filter
HKS Oil Filter
Gruppe-S Uncatted Unequal Length Header

Brake System

Grimmspeed Master Cylinder Brace
DBA Slotted Rotors
Ferodo DS2500 Brake Pads
Stoptech Stainless Steel Brake Lines

Fluids
Eneos 5w30 Synthetic Engine Oil
Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid
Motul 1L Transmission 300LS Gear Oil

Wheels
XXR 527 17x8
Hankook Ventus RS3 225/40/17
Varrstoenn VT48 Neochrome Lug Nuts

Tuning

Open Flash Table Stage 2 UEL Tune

Miscellaneous

MTEC Drift Shif Knob
Perrin Brake Reservoir Cozy
FT86 Steering Wheel Badge
FT86 Console Insert

simpleisbest 08-14-2016 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofurky (Post 2729063)
Not sure which class I'm in for Autox, which mods would I have to remove to run in STX. Currently, I am also unsure if I would be in SM or a street prepared class

Can someone help me clarify?

Exterior

Velox Motorsports Front Splitter
Velox Motorsports Front Endplates
Velox Motorsports Rear Diffuser
HT Auto Side Steps
HT Auto Rear Spats
TRD Canards
TRD Duckbill Wing
SARD LSR Wing
Toyota Badges
JDM Clear Corner Lights

Suspension

Fortune Auto 500 Series Coilovers (7k F, 8k R)
Perrin Front Sway Bar
SPC Rear Lower Control Arms
WRX Rear Sway Bar
Corner Balance and Alignment by Roger Kraus Racing

Engine

Perrin Intake Elbow
HKS Intake Filter
HKS Oil Filter
Gruppe-S Uncatted Unequal Length Header

Brake System

Grimmspeed Master Cylinder Brace
DBA Slotted Rotors
Ferodo DS2500 Brake Pads
Stoptech Stainless Steel Brake Lines

Fluids
Eneos 5w30 Synthetic Engine Oil
Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid
Motul 1L Transmission 300LS Gear Oil

Wheels
XXR 527 17x8
Hankook Ventus RS3 225/40/17
Varrstoenn VT48 Neochrome Lug Nuts

Tuning

Open Flash Table Stage 2 UEL Tune

Miscellaneous

MTEC Drift Shif Knob
Perrin Brake Reservoir Cozy
FT86 Steering Wheel Badge
FT86 Console Insert

Off the top of my head, to be STX legal, here you go!!

Exterior

Velox Motorsports Front Splitter (REMOVE)
Velox Motorsports Front Endplates (REMOVE)
Velox Motorsports Rear Diffuser (REMOVE)
HT Auto Side Steps (REMOVE)
HT Auto Rear Spats (REMOVE)
TRD Canards (REMOVE)
TRD Duckbill Wing (REMOVE)
SARD LSR Wing (REMOVE)
Toyota Badges
JDM Clear Corner Lights

Suspension

Fortune Auto 500 Series Coilovers (7k F, 8k R)
Perrin Front Sway Bar
SPC Rear Lower Control Arms (Must Replace Spherical Bearings with Bushings: See SCCA Rules)

WRX Rear Sway Bar
Corner Balance and Alignment by Roger Kraus Racing

Engine

Perrin Intake Elbow
HKS Intake Filter
HKS Oil Filter
Gruppe-S Uncatted Unequal Length Header

Brake System

Grimmspeed Master Cylinder Brace (REMOVE)
DBA Slotted Rotors
Ferodo DS2500 Brake Pads
Stoptech Stainless Steel Brake Lines

Fluids
Eneos 5w30 Synthetic Engine Oil
Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid
Motul 1L Transmission 300LS Gear Oil

Wheels
XXR 527 17x8
Hankook Ventus RS3 225/40/17
Varrstoenn VT48 Neochrome Lug Nuts

Tuning

Open Flash Table Stage 2 UEL Tune

Miscellaneous

MTEC Drift Shif Knob
Perrin Brake Reservoir Cozy
FT86 Steering Wheel Badge
FT86 Console Insert

Locust 08-14-2016 05:41 PM

Right now it looks like you're in SM. Side skirts in any form are not permitted in Street Prepared but there is a provision for splitters. Your canards I'm unsure of but they are permitted in SM. Don't have time to look it all up for you but if you're trying to get down to STX you definitely have some work to do. Fortunately for you the removal (and addition) of badges is permitted in ST__ classes because I know that's the hardest part to change.

Also your JDM corner lights must be reasonably within the same weight of the lights they replaced.

MarkR171 08-17-2016 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locust (Post 2729083)
Fortunately for you the removal (and addition) of badges is permitted in ST__ classes because I know that's the hardest part to change.

Can one swap badges in CS? I haven't swapped mine yet, but was planning to at some point. Don't see anything in the rules about it.

TrqlessWonder 08-17-2016 12:42 PM

it'd be a weenie protest, and wouldn't happen at a local. But, IIDSYCTYC is the official rule.

finch1750 08-17-2016 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrqlessWonder (Post 2731218)
it'd be a weenie protest, and wouldn't happen at a local. But, IIDSYCTYC is the official rule.

IIDSYCTYC?

e1_griego 08-17-2016 01:32 PM

If It Doesn't Say You Can Then You Can't.

IIDSYCTYC

MarkR171 08-17-2016 01:53 PM

Scion badge it is

Lynxis 08-17-2016 02:39 PM

My advice to you:

Since it sounds like you are just getting started autocrossing, I think you should just run in SM with your car the way it is because it's not like you'll be competitive anyway. Compare your times to the STX guys and once your times are competitive for the class, then think about prepping for it.

EN2_Squirrel 08-17-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynxis (Post 2731323)
My advice to you:

Since it sounds like you are just getting started autocrossing, I think you should just run in SM with your car the way it is because it's not like you'll be competitive anyway. Compare your times to the STX guys and once your times are competitive for the class, then think about prepping for it.





Or just light your wallet on fire and join us in SM. we have cookies, horsepower and purple crack(hoosiers). but yeah avoid good tires until you learn on crap tires. good tires hide mistakes.

Locust 08-17-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR171 (Post 2731204)
Can one swap badges in CS? I haven't swapped mine yet, but was planning to at some point. Don't see anything in the rules about it.

No you cannot.

e1_griego 08-17-2016 04:58 PM

The person sweating you for a badge, even at a national event, is a ****.

Locust 08-17-2016 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e1_griego (Post 2731509)
The person sweating you for a badge, even at a national event, is a ****.

Well if someone debadged their car and took first by 1/1000th would you protest them for the extra 3 ounces of weight savings they got from it? It's a difference of almost $1,500 in contingency money between 1st and 2nd since Scion/TRD only pay out for first place. Why risk it?

Sure if you're going to go and be 50th/80 then whatever, I really doubt 51st-80th are going to protest you. But you go in knowing that you can be.

e1_griego 08-17-2016 06:16 PM

3oz of cosmetic shit isn't doing anything for your time.

It will always be a weenie protest.

edit: Since you want to get super duper anal retentive on the rules, the book says "Accessories, gauges, indicators, lights and other appearance, comfort and convenience modifications which have no effect on performance and/or handling and do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted."

Materially = substantially, and a badge doesn't constitute any sort of substantial weight.

Debadging would be an easy argument to make.

Maybe somewhere else's it's explicitly prohibited, but I still think a protest for a badge as 1000% weenie protest and the filer of said protest is still a ****.


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