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GsxrMe 07-04-2016 09:51 AM

Factory heads?
 
I'm seeing a lot of builds building just the short block and using head studs. How rough and tough is the factory valve springs?

Dream20b 07-04-2016 10:01 AM

Haven't done any research on this but...
I haven't seen any of these broken yet, so I assume fairly strong.

gramicci101 07-04-2016 10:20 AM

I know Full Blown has stage 1-3 head packages (hehe), so the need has been identified. They also push 700+ hp though, so maybe the OEM head is only an issue at those levels.

@FullBlown, at what level did the head become an issue?

spitfire481 07-04-2016 10:30 AM

Doing valve springs helps keep the rockers from shooting out the valve cover. We do them on every built motor and check that the lash is correct

Matt@Cosworth 07-04-2016 01:11 PM

the factory springs are far too light for any reasonable amount of boost
if you're rebuilding the engine I'd swap them out for something heavier

weederr33 07-04-2016 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=gramicci101;2696432]I know Full Blown has stage 1-3 head packages (hehe), so the need has been identified. They also push 700+ hp though, so maybe the OEM head is only an issue at those levels.


Head packages are a serious thing..... hehe

wbradley 07-04-2016 04:38 PM

If going high power, a lot of people have swapped the valve springs. Some people have actually broken a spring. If you are 300 HP or less probably not needed in most cases,from what I have read.

Matt@Cosworth 07-06-2016 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2696642)
If going high power, a lot of people have swapped the valve springs. Some people have actually broken a spring. If you are 300 HP or less probably not needed in most cases,from what I have read.

I agree with that - although the standard spring cover is so small that even a stock engine would benefit from a slightly heavier spring to help with over-rev's
my analysis showed a max safe rpm with the stock cam is 7800rpm....

admittedly a loss of valve control is something that you can often get away with for a while until the valve head falls off 10,000 cycles later

Ultramaroon 07-06-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt@Cosworth (Post 2697961)
I agree with that - although the standard spring cover is so small that even a stock engine would benefit from a slightly heavier spring to help with over-rev's
my analysis showed a max safe rpm with the stock cam is 7800rpm....

admittedly a loss of valve control is something that you can often get away with for a while until the valve head falls off 10,000 cycles later

I was about to interject/ask about this mysterious relationship of valve spring rate to power but fortunately you came into the picture. :thumbsup:


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