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Gbaby86 03-21-2016 03:44 PM

Portland Area- Rock in motor need advice!
 
New to the forum. Have searched a lot but just decided to sign up because i need advice from y'all who know this motor before i spend the $$ for the fix.

Long story short went to change my oil Friday. Somehow a rock got in the funnel as i was transferring it to the oil filler and it went right in. So I had the rock sitting on top of the camshaft timing intake gear (if i would have known prior about the camshaft oil control valve i could have got it). Ended up pushing the rock down next to the timing exhaust gear below. Tried removing it through control valve with no luck. It is currently sitting right below the pulley. Between the pulley and the case i would say. Pretty tough angle to get between to scoop it out with anything.

I would say i am at the point where i gotta break that case open. Not totally sure what that entails. Going to call around later today to get some quotes. If anyone on here knows a shop in the Portland/Gresham area that is familar with FA20's so i could get an accurate quote that would be appriciated!

Weather or not its going to be spendy will be the deciding factor if i take on this project myself or not. Ive got a couple buddies that know motors pretty well but not the FA20 in particular. It would be nice to get input from someone on here that knows the motor real well.

Thanks in advance for any input!

Kody

go_a_way1 03-21-2016 03:51 PM

Total loss. Time to buy a 2017 "86" that will look like ass :popcorn:

Ultramaroon 03-21-2016 04:31 PM

Is it possible to get at it with a grabbing tool? Sucks, man. I feel your pain.

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LOLS2K 03-21-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2591037)
Total loss. Time to buy a 2017 "86" that will look like ass :popcorn:

Did they drop the [GT]86?

Edit: Sorry to hear that. Let us know how it got resolved.

Gbaby86 03-21-2016 04:59 PM

Yea I tried using one of the grabbers. It was just too tight to get in :bellyroll:

Ultramaroon 03-21-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gbaby86 (Post 2591163)
Yea I tried using one of the grabbers. It was just too tight to get in :bellyroll:

How about taping a smaller hose to a shop vac and try sucking it out? I work in Portland and live in Vancouver. Lots of dumb ideas. Sometimes they even work.

Gbaby86 03-21-2016 05:13 PM

Tried that as well when it was much higher in the case. Could feel the vacuum effect through the dipstick hole but no luck.

Any ideas help!

Jonesy86 03-21-2016 08:08 PM

Buy my fa20 with a vortech sc. :)

Ultramaroon 03-21-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gbaby86 (Post 2591191)
Tried that as well when it was much higher in the case. Could feel the vacuum effect through the dipstick hole but no luck.

Any ideas help!

If you felt it in the dipstick tube that's too big of a hose. It needs to be about the size of the rock or smaller so the rock sticks to it.

Pete156 03-22-2016 12:17 AM

Get a stiff wire
Place a glob of epoxy on the end of the wire
Guide the wire onto the rock
Let epoxy set
Pull it all out as one

Ultramaroon 03-22-2016 01:45 PM

The more I think about your predicament, the more @go_a_way1's suggestion actually makes sense.

I think I'd rather pull the engine and flip it over on a stand before disassembling the timing chain cover.

If it doesn't work, you'd still have a nice controlled environment in which you could carefully proceed.

go_a_way1 03-22-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2592320)
The more I think about your predicament, the more @go_a_way1's suggestion actually makes sense.

I think I'd rather pull the engine and flip it over on a stand before disassembling the timing chain cover.

If it doesn't work, you'd still have a nice controlled environment in which you could carefully proceed.

Exactly my pattern of thought. As dumb as it sounds it might work hahaha!!

stockysnail 03-22-2016 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2592320)
The more I think about your predicament, the more @go_a_way1's suggestion actually makes sense.

I think I'd rather pull the engine and flip it over on a stand before disassembling the timing chain cover.

If it doesn't work, you'd still have a nice controlled environment in which you could carefully proceed.

Hopefully we can find all the Hulk-a-maniacs to get them to help flip it since Hogan's probably busy.

Ultramaroon 03-22-2016 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 2592823)
Hopefully we can find all the Hulk-a-maniacs to get them to help flip it since Hogan's probably busy.

Engine stands are cheap. Stands and shop cranes can be rented. I have both but am in the middle of an Acura TL-sized headache.


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