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bleox 02-15-2016 07:22 AM

Jacking points?
 
So guys my jack is not long enough to reach the subframe the "low profile " jacks body will hit my bumper when I lower after I install my coils so my question is can I lift it right next to the pinch weld then put the jack stand next to it ? Or to make my life even easier can I just jack on side right in the middle of the pinch weld and do both sides ?


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MarkR171 02-15-2016 09:07 AM

Get some ramps, or make ramps out of wood. Drive the front onto the ramps for the extra height you need to fit the jack underneath.

lukes Frs 02-15-2016 10:37 AM

Yea don't Jack the car up from the pinch welds they are really not designed to hold the weight of the car. Drive up on ramps an the go off the k members

omfg5041 02-15-2016 11:49 AM

It's fine to lift by the pinch welds. It's what they're there for.


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mav1178 02-15-2016 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bleox (Post 2548145)
so my question is can I lift it right next to the pinch weld then put the jack stand next to it ? Or to make my life even easier can I just jack on side right in the middle of the pinch weld and do both sides ?

Depends on what you are trying to do. You can use two jacks and lift one end of the car together, or you can even use a single jack and lift one side of the car as the chassis is quite stiff.

If you are doing this for purposes of lifting the car and working on the suspension, you'll find it best to lift one axle at a time. The sway bar will preload the suspension and make things difficult if one side is lifted and not the other.

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Originally Posted by lukes Frs (Post 2548220)
Yea don't Jack the car up from the pinch welds they are really not designed to hold the weight of the car. Drive up on ramps an the go off the k members

Contrary to what you believe, the pinch weld areas are actual lift points for the car and can easily support the weight of the car.

-alex

bleox 02-15-2016 02:48 PM

Jacking points?
 
Yeah my concern is that when I lower the car after suspension is installed the jack is not gonna make out its gonna get stuck because of deep in the subframe is :( my idea was to lift from the middle of the pinch weld of one side jack the whole side up put the jack stands then go to the other side


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lukes Frs 02-15-2016 04:21 PM

Look it up the pinch welds are nothing more than the visible area that the inerr structure weldsto the putter panel but have fun believing common miss beliefs in factors about you that knows for a fact that a pinch weld is for lifting a car look it up a pinch weld is only designed to support the load of the car when itis in pinch weld clamps on a frame machine. Justbecuse you work at advance auto or oriellys auto dosent mean your a car tech lol

omfg5041 02-15-2016 04:30 PM

Dude, become a mechanic and then tell us that the pinch welds are not for lifting. You can lift any unibody frame by the pinch welds without doing damage to the vehicle. Granted, if they are soft and rusted, then no, don't do that. Since I don't have time to argue with stupid, it might help to look at the following forum link - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10111


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RichardsFRS 02-15-2016 04:55 PM

Floor jack will probably bend the pinch welds and the article says for factory scissor jack. My concern would be being so low I can't change a tire

omfg5041 02-15-2016 05:10 PM

Using a floor jack should not bend pinch welds. At the shop, all we lift by is pinch welds. at home, I lift by pinch welds without issue. It's a structural point of the body meant to support the weight. If you're really concerned, get a 1$ hockey puck, and set it on the floor jack. Problem solved. Same surface contact area, no risk of damaging paint.


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bleox 02-15-2016 06:06 PM

So can I jack it up from here http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c3ef66357e.jpg


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mav1178 02-15-2016 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lukes Frs (Post 2548797)
Look it up the pinch welds are nothing more than the visible area that the inerr structure weldsto the putter panel but have fun believing common miss beliefs in factors about you that knows for a fact that a pinch weld is for lifting a car look it up a pinch weld is only designed to support the load of the car when itis in pinch weld clamps on a frame machine. Justbecuse you work at advance auto or oriellys auto dosent mean your a car tech lol

I would suggest you read the Owner's Manual on where the lift points are on the car.

And no, I am not a car tech nor do I work at Advance Auto or O'Reilly's.

And no, I am not the grammar police.

-alex

mav1178 02-15-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bleox (Post 2548923)
So can I jack it up from here

Here's the jack points:

http://s10.photobucket.com/user/azia...oints.jpg.html

radroach 02-15-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2549009)

What is the "attachment" that is shown in those diagrams/illustrations? Is that basically a soft pad similar to the hockey puck method people are talking about?


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