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joey999 11-19-2015 02:42 AM

What do you recommend with these tires
 
Have some good grippy tires 215/45/17s on my frs at the moment which are the same tire size as stock.

Looking to buy wheels, what wheel size do you recommend?

I was thinking 17*7+46 but that is really similar to the stock wheel.

What do you guys recommend? 17*8??? Or

churchx 11-19-2015 07:53 AM

If you intend to keep using 215 width ones .. better stay with stock size wheels aswell. The wider the wheel, the heavier.

joey999 11-19-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2455971)
If you intend to keep using 215 width ones .. better stay with stock size wheels aswell. The wider the wheel, the heavier.

More looks rather than weight. Trying to work out a more aggresive wheel size i could try. Like 17*8 or 9.
Unsure if they will fit however

Cole 11-19-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by joey999 (Post 2455982)
More looks rather than weight. Trying to work out a more aggresive wheel size i could try. Like 17*8 or 9.
Unsure if they will fit however

You'd be ok with a 17x8. 17x9 is going to be a decent stretch on the tire.

Trettiosjuan 11-19-2015 09:18 AM

Two favourites:
Rota Titan 17x8 et42
Fox FX005 wheel 17x7.5 et35

Look good (concave), not too wild fitment, light (7,7 and 7,4kg resp) and not too expensive.

joey999 11-19-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2455986)
You'd be ok with a 17x8. 17x9 is going to be a decent stretch on the tire.

Would it look much different going 17*8 or 17*7 ? Noticeable? If so, what offset do you recommend for 17*8

joey999 11-19-2015 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=Trettiosjuan;2455994]Two favourites:
Rota Titan 17x8 et42
Fox FX005 wheel 17x7.5 et3

Do both these fitment 215/45/17 easily

Mr.ac 11-19-2015 09:47 AM

Dude search the massive wheel and tire section. It has every combination of wheel and tire you can think of.

jawn 11-19-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2456004)
Dude search the massive wheel and tire section. It has every combination of wheel and tire you can think of.

Or go to the manufacturer of the tire - they'll usually have a recommended wheel width listed with their tires.

DarkSunrise 11-19-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joey999 (Post 2455910)
Have some good grippy tires 215/45/17s on my frs at the moment which are the same tire size as stock.

Looking to buy wheels, what wheel size do you recommend?

I was thinking 17*7+46 but that is really similar to the stock wheel.

What do you guys recommend? 17*8??? Or

17x8 would be ideal for you IMO. Can fit a 215 tire with a slight stretch (good for handling), and has the flexibility to take 225 and 235 tires in the future if you decide you want to go wider.

8R6 11-19-2015 12:58 PM

i would try to find a set of 17x8 +30

hmong337 11-19-2015 02:13 PM

Honestly, I would skip straight to a 17x9 and wrap them with 245/40r17's or even a 255.

EAGLE5 11-19-2015 04:28 PM

You should look through galleries and find wheels you like. 17x9 with 225 tires seems to be the performance sweet spot for NA cars. I'm sure an FI car would want more tire. Going for looks is a totally different thing. Also, camber and having coilovers will affect what fits.

joey999 11-19-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 2456398)
You should look through galleries and find wheels you like. 17x9 with 225 tires seems to be the performance sweet spot for NA cars. I'm sure an FI car would want more tire. Going for looks is a totally different thing. Also, camber and having coilovers will affect what fits.

Would you recommend getting an aftermarket wheels similar to the stock wheel size --- like 17*7+47

Heard its best for performance aspects

Mr.ac 11-19-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joey999 (Post 2456671)
Would you recommend getting an aftermarket wheels similar to the stock wheel size --- like 17*7+47

Heard its best for performance aspects

No, unless it weights less than the OEM wheels then you'll be saving weight gaining performance.

EAGLE5 11-20-2015 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by joey999 (Post 2456671)
Would you recommend getting an aftermarket wheels similar to the stock wheel size --- like 17*7+47

Heard its best for performance aspects

Early on, Ropispec claimed that 17x9 with a 225 wheel was fastest around a track. It probably party depends on the tire. I believe he was using RPF1 wheels. His car was also far from stock. There's a thread around here somewhere.

If I were to upgrade from stock wheels, I'd get 17x9 +35 to clear the stock shocks.

EAGLE5 11-20-2015 02:37 AM

And for the record, I own 3 sets of OEM wheels but nothing aftermarket.

joey999 11-20-2015 03:49 AM

If I were to upgrade from stock wheels, I'd get 17x9 +35 to clear the stock shocks.[/QUOTE]

My only concern about that option is will they defintely fit easily

joey999 11-20-2015 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 2456953)
Early on, Ropispec claimed that 17x9 with a 225 wheel was fastest around a track. It probably party depends on the tire. I believe he was using RPF1 wheels. His car was also far from stock. There's a thread around here somewhere.

If I were to upgrade from stock wheels, I'd get 17x9 +35 to clear the stock shocks.

My only concern with that option is will they fit easily

churchx 11-20-2015 04:35 AM

joey999: btw, you should first state, how you intend to use your car. Only daily driving or track days only, or some mix of them? And what power you'll have, stock NA or forced induction? Any plans on using wider tires in future? Do you want to keep stock-like easy to poweroversteer or ok with tramlining? Be more descriptive as to where your preferences lie. Otherwise seeing advises like "some guy racing on track got best results on X size of tires" is hardly usable if eg. you won't ever race at all.
Only facts i've seen from you were: having stock 215/45/17 tires you need wheels to fit on, and that you want a bit of wider/"agressive" looks and value looks a bit above weight increase.

joey999 11-21-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2456999)
joey999: btw, you should first state, how you intend to use your car. Only daily driving or track days only, or some mix of them? And what power you'll have, stock NA or forced induction? Any plans on using wider tires in future? Do you want to keep stock-like easy to poweroversteer or ok with tramlining? Be more descriptive as to where your preferences lie. Otherwise seeing advises like "some guy racing on track got best results on X size of tires" is hardly usable if eg. you won't ever race at all.
Only facts i've seen from you were: having stock 215/45/17 tires you need wheels to fit on, and that you want a bit of wider/"agressive" looks and value looks a bit above weight increase.

Yo church
car is a daily driver, no plans of forced induction any time soon. Just wanna know a good wheel fitment that looks good with those tires

churchx 11-21-2015 09:47 AM

If no forced induction, and no auto-x/trackday plans, then i'd stay with narrow tires & wheels for sake of keeping car character. Will be cheaper aswell. At most a bit different offset to get tires more flush and that's it, no need for senslessly uber wide ones. Somehow hadn't noticed people actively looking below car to check width and booing everybody below their .. 'standards'. Seeing that you intend to use tires of stock size, just get fitting 17x7/7.5/8 wheels of whichever model you like looks of and call it done. Sidegain of not oversized wheels - they weight less, hence (especially if lighter then stock) you may get better acceleration/braking/better suspension.

continuecrushing 11-21-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2458039)
If no forced induction, and no auto-x/trackday plans, then i'd stay with narrow tires & wheels for sake of keeping car character. Will be cheaper aswell. At most a bit different offset to get tires more flush and that's it, no need for senslessly uber wide ones. Somehow hadn't noticed people actively looking below car to check width and booing everybody below their .. 'standards'. Seeing that you intend to use tires of stock size, just get fitting 17x7/7.5/8 wheels of whichever model you like looks of and call it done. Sidegain of not oversized wheels - they weight less, hence (especially if lighter then stock) you may get better acceleration/braking/better suspension.

this. x a billion

joey999 11-22-2015 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2458039)
If no forced induction, and no auto-x/trackday plans, then i'd stay with narrow tires & wheels for sake of keeping car character. Will be cheaper aswell. At most a bit different offset to get tires more flush and that's it, no need for senslessly uber wide ones. Somehow hadn't noticed people actively looking below car to check width and booing everybody below their .. 'standards'. Seeing that you intend to use tires of stock size, just get fitting 17x7/7.5/8 wheels of whichever model you like looks of and call it done. Sidegain of not oversized wheels - they weight less, hence (especially if lighter then stock) you may get better acceleration/braking/better suspension.

Thanks for the info, im new to this tire sizing stuff haha

Why do people choose bigger wheels but if performance is decreased? Does it really look better :/

jvincent 11-22-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by joey999 (Post 2458823)
Why do people choose bigger wheels but if performance is decreased? Does it really look better :/

Yes, it really looks better IMHO. Also, you can get light 18" wheels that are actually lighter than the stock wheels.

churchx 11-22-2015 12:17 PM

joey999: beauty is in the eye of beholder. To me overly wide wheels/tires without actual need for them looks like wannabe posing. I guess thinking may go along the lines "if i have wheels like those ferrari-s/porsches/lamborghini/koenigsegg/maclaren" "my cheap coupe will become as cool as those", or "if it works for much more expensive exotic sportscars it surely must be better on mine too", ignoring actual impact on car at hands resulting performance / specifics / optimisations. Very similar situation is with going for staggered setup, despite how many advise against. "I must install these" "no matter what".
Yes, there are some scenarios where wide & grippier tires are of benefit, such as mentioned auto-x racing in hands of experienced driver that can use fully all grip available at going >9/10, or if you noticeably rise engine performance with forced induction and so on .. but imho it's just for 1:10 from all of those that install those wider ones, with most doing just and only for looks in way what looks cooler in their eyes, not of practical sense. For your described usage scenarios imho no sense in doing such things.


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