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Novaft86 10-13-2015 11:29 PM

Airbag light on only at night
 
So i have an aftermarket steering wheel and the resistors are in never had issues. Then installed hids which i dont see causing an issue but it started happening after they were installed. During the day the light isnt on once night comes and i start the car the light is on. Any help?

jawn 10-13-2015 11:33 PM

How are your HIDs wired in? Relay or direct?

Novaft86 10-13-2015 11:42 PM

Direct

jawn 10-14-2015 12:01 AM

Barring a short, the only thing I can think of is that HIDs draw significantly lower amperage during operation than incandescent bulbs. This might be a CANBUS issue, and the ECU might be expecting a certain total amperage from the system. What resistance are your resistors?

Novaft86 10-14-2015 12:09 AM

Ive had the lights on during the day to check if that was why and no airbag light came on. Two 20 or 2 ohm cant remember

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-14-2015 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2419279)
Ive had the lights on during the day to check if that was why and no airbag light came on. Two 20 or 2 ohm cant remember

What brand/model HID kit is it? I would look into a CAN BUS ballast if possible as well if it plugged directly into the stock connector

Novaft86 10-14-2015 12:42 AM

Ill have to look at brand but it has a ballast that goes to the original plugs

soulreapersteve 10-14-2015 12:46 AM

No hate or judgement here.

Did you buy it cheap from ebay? like under 50 dollar cheap?

Novaft86 10-14-2015 01:49 AM

From a car show for 80

jawn 10-14-2015 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2419338)
From a car show for 80

Yeah, I'd swap for a CANBUS ballast, or check for a short. Maybe go back to stock for a bit, and see if it that resolves the issue. I think Diode Dynamics has a CANBUS ballast as part of their HID kit.

Asides from the airbag light, is there anything else that behaves a little wonky?

Novaft86 10-14-2015 02:20 AM

Everything else runs smooth just that issue at night

humfrz 10-14-2015 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2419239)
................ During the day the light isnt on once night comes and i start the car the light is on. Any help?

Maybe the light is always ON ...... and you can just SEE it at night ......?? :popcorn:

carma143 10-14-2015 04:10 AM

Could your area be much more humid during the night? Maybe that's screwing up with some sort of component.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-14-2015 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2419299)
Ill have to look at brand but it has a ballast that goes to the original plugs

Wattage would be nice if possible as well, possibility is that if its a 55 Watt its burning some things out and creating too much draw at night only when it runs the longest.

Disconnect the HIDs, and drive around a bit at night SAFELY in a parking lot without headlights and see if the airbag light returns

steve99 10-14-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2419239)
So i have an aftermarket steering wheel and the resistors are in never had issues. Then installed hids which i dont see causing an issue but it started happening after they were installed. During the day the light isnt on once night comes and i start the car the light is on. Any help?

It likely the hid , some aftermarket hid kits cause all sorts of weird problem as the electronics in them are poor quality and introduce electrical noise into the system upsetting the cars sensors or electronic control units..
disconnect hids and see if problem goes away.

Tcoat 10-14-2015 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 2419417)
It likely the hid , some aftermarket hid kits cause all sorts of weird problem as the electronics in them are poor quality and introduce electrical noise into the system upsetting the cars sensors or electronic control units..
disconnect hids and see if problem goes away.

This^^ It is well documented that some of the aftermarket units cause BCU issues. These issues show symptoms ranging from total ECU failure to intermittent and seemingly absurd unrelated conditions. This is just another to add to the list.

Novaft86 10-14-2015 10:41 AM

Ill have to give that a try then ill post the results

stevesnj 10-14-2015 02:09 PM

Put the old lights back in and see if the light comes on. If not it's the HIDs...somehow

jawn 10-14-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 2419781)
Put the old lights back in and see if the light comes on. If not it's the HIDs...somehow

It's not that mysterious. A ton of the accessories are wired via CANBUS, and a ton of the accessories are wired through the BCU. Electrical noise, differences in power consumption, differences in resistances, or shorts can do a number on these systems.

chaoskaze 10-14-2015 02:26 PM

lesson of the day : get cheap stuff but not too cheap. :P

Novaft86 10-15-2015 01:13 AM

Lessons learned indeed

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-15-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2420472)
Lessons learned indeed

Can you take photos of the ballasts and such so we can see its specs?? I recommend getting a CANBUS HID kit from diode dynamics they have quality parts that are worth the $150, if my OLMs ever have an issue that's what I'll go to

Novaft86 11-01-2015 08:08 PM

Well after some time i think i finally figured what it was. And im pretty sure it only happens when it gets below a certain temperature outside more than likely causing a resistor pin to shrink somewhat and not be in full contact

FRSBRZGT86FAN 11-01-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Novaft86 (Post 2438747)
Well after some time i think i finally figured what it was. And im pretty sure it only happens when it gets below a certain temperature outside more than likely causing a resistor pin to shrink somewhat and not be in full contact


Good fix

White64Goat 11-01-2015 10:35 PM

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zc06_kisstherain 11-02-2015 05:29 PM

if you mount your ballast very close to ABS, it causes light to be on.


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