Toyota FT-86 Price Poll
 

What do you think (not hope ;) ), I have heard such a range!

Let's focus on the starting, base price (MSRP).

Hopefully the "wisdom of crowds" will act as an reasonably accurate prediction-market for us.

This should be complimentary to JDMinc's "Toyota FT-86 weight -- take your guesses" Poll.

Yes I realize the poll has 2 minor mistakes (last 3 categories don't have the 1 at the end of the first figure, and the last 2 categories should be $32K-$35K, > $35K) I don't see where I can edit the poll now, but I don't think it will affect the outcome of the polling. Eventually I'll have the result of our general predictions via poll farther down in the thread.

I think Toyota will be true to their currently stated plan, and it will start at/around 21-22 large.

I think so too... but I worry bout those dealers might raise it up

Yeah, but I'm more interested in pricing for the supposed "higher power version", as that is the one I'll more than likely be looking at getting. :sigh:

i voted $20,001-$23,000. i think it will top out about $28,000

Yea I hear you S2K, but the quotes you have around high power are the reason why I made the poll for the base version. We can be sure that the base version will come, but not on the specificity or existance of the high power version (but I hope it comes! it prob will!). & for consistency, let's make it the MSRP we are predicting.

That wouldn't be too bad I suppose. The Genesis Coupe I built, 2.0 Turbo Track, was around that I believe. Here's what it came out to be. http://www.hyundaiusa.com/shoppingto...o/preview.aspx

No worries man. My vote was 20,001-23k MSRP for the base version.

Same. Can't see a base version of this car starting above 23k. That would be :confused0068:

27,500 thats about correct:w00t:

I actually hope the price doesnt reflect the options and the quality of the FT. I would like to be able to get a decent stereo, moonroof, stability control and power options if they are available. Making the car too cheap might also reflect the quality of the car. I wouldnt want Toyota to cut corners with things like the interior plastics, paint quality and lack of options to keep the car cheap.

:word:

Would really like to see it start in the teens, but low 20s is probably the best we'll get.

As much as I would like to see it at 20-23k i don't see that happening. It's closest competitors Genesis coupe and miata are in the 23-26k range and that's where the Celica (FT-86) will probably be.

Yeah, definitely low 20's without any extras. Bloated with every conceivable goody, under 29

That's what I'm hoping for. :happyanim:

Im guessing somewhere between 23k-25k if its Turbo and 20k-23k if its N/A

Whoa there aren't you jumping the gun there a bit lol

:confused0068::thanks: Please dont ever call it that horrid name ever again unless theres enough info to call it that.

Completely simpled out, bare trim ~18,000

Bloated with power goodies ~21,000


This is the "not high powered" version.


Wishful thinking, but more than possible.

I'm basing mine off some pretty simple finance math.

The market this car is aimed at is the youth market, 18-34 ish you could say.

Average income in the year range? 35-40k a year, I'd say. Thats a fair average.

Principal amount of loan: 20,000 18,000
~ Interest rate estimate: 10% 10%
60 month term 60
Payment: $424.94 $382.45

% of monthly income @35k a year
$424.94 - 14.57%
$382.45 - 13.13%

@40k a year
$424.94- 12.75%
$382.45 - 11.47%

Your car payment should never go above 15% of your monthly income (or good luck getting the loan).

You best believe Toyota is going under the premise that this car is going to be financed way more than bought straight up with cash.

/shrug, thats all completely guesstimating (interest rate, and yearly income of target market)

do your votes reflect what you are prepared to pay for it? assuming every ft-86 clubber is planning to own one.
or is it what you expect others with more dough to pay that amount for it?

I think most are just speculating/voting on the MSRP of the base version.

10% may be a bit too high for a new car unless you are young guy. Well depends on what down payment you put down as well.

I only do it because I know how much it angers some of you. I kid...it's all in good fun.:happy0180:

LOL, even though I agree w/ Shevon, & Danzilla

it was mainly to show that $20,000 itself is really pushing the limit as is. You could generalize a down payment/ trade in value average of ~4,000, but it doesn't shift the monthly payment downward very much. Thats why I think the base line model will be cheaper than most people think. If they go much higher than that then their target market can't really afford to buy their car.

Even if you calculate the downpayment, my estimated average yearly income (35k -40k) is a relatively fair assessment, probably well over the yearly income of most young enthusiasts.

Again, thats pricing estimates for the base model. I dont' expect the high powered version to be sub $25,000

I am glad there are members who are looking at this seriously.
I will add that:
1: I recall reading an article saying Toyota did not have Gen Y in mind with the creation of the vehicle (I'll have to find it again when I have time)

2:My extremely simple video on youtube, (which is essentially the gif image i posted that S2K uses atm,(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im5lkLqRlmU)) has had:
15.4K views in less than a month

~36% aged 45-54
~36% aged 35-44
~18% aged 25-34
~6% aged 18-24

90% male

55% US
15% japan
5% UK

& attention spikes at the pedals

What does that mean, nothing other than that is who is interested in my simple video. But I would wager to project that the market for the car is similar, and Toyota already spent a lot of money to discover this.

I think that's a fair guess. Just hoping that there'll actually be a turbo version to pick from.

i would be happy as hell if it came in the 20-23K but i voted 26-29K

I hope base is like 20k

Well then you're in luck, because you're expecting something way up here....


and its actually going to be lower.

I would say with certainty that it wont be near 30K mark.
IF the FT-86 starts getting close to the 30k mark then they will be knocking on the door of the EVO, 370z, Impreza crowd. I know those cars a litttle more than 30k but thinking about it if your paying 29k for a FT-86 why not just add a few thousand and buy a lot more powerful car.

I'm going to say if toyota is trying to some what recreate the AE86 it will probably be 17 to 25k broad range for all the different models. The Sprinter tureno was just a normal sports car back then it wasn't meant to be anything super awesome. The price reflected that back then. So the FT86 to stay true to the same philosophy would have to be priced modest also.

So far, our collective mind says:
 

Although unorthodox, if you take the middle number of the range from each choice of the poll (ie $20K-$23K = $21.5K), our polled average turns out to be $22,365. So as a group (first 52 responses), we collectively think (w/ maybe a little bit of hope) that the base MSRP will be about $22,365.

Even more unorthodox will be to take a standard deviation from these non-ratio responses, but for shits and giggles, it is $2,744. So we might say that if this is an average situation, we can be ~84% sure the price will be +/- $2,744.

The good news is all that sounds reasonable, but the bad news is it is not technically the correct way to go about measuring predictions and reporting statistics. But for me, it is good enough as a rough yet reasonably obtained estimate, especially if you consider that we will know the *actual* price soon enough.

Category Midpoint # Resp % Resp Midpoint * %Resp
<$17,000 $15,500 1 1.92% $298
$17,000-$20,000 $18,500 6 11.54% $2,135
$20,001-$23,000 $21,500 28 53.85% $11,578
$23,001-$26,000 $24,500 12 23.08% $5,655
$26,001-$29,000 $27,500 4 7.69% $2,115
$29,000-$32,000 $30,500 1 1.92% $586


SUM: 52 100.00% $22,365
(hmm, that doesn't post over very well, but hopefully it is clear enough)

Guessing $21,199 base NA to exactly undercut the genesis with dest. Charge included.

**If** there is a turbo version, $24,249 base.

**If** they make a convertible version, it would be slightly cheaper than the turbo (and it'll be NA) priced to compete with the miata.... say, $23k

Won't speculate on a TRD/GT-4 version.........

I guess however, that there wont be many options..... auto, sunroof, better stereo....... that's about it.

It'd be cool to see a "clubsport" spec with wind up windows, steelies, no backseat for like $18-19k. Advics brakes, streo delete & ac delete optional. 6 Speed only.

I wonder when we will hear an update on pricing

I dunno about the next update, but my guess is final price points won't be released until roughly 4-5 months before production.

Whatever the price is , it's gonna be more over here in Belgium . Our government doesn't like sportscars , actually they don't like cars at all.

That sucks. I know how you feel. Prices in Canada are unproportionately higher than what they should be based on the dollar value.

At least we had the benefit of being able to stick it to the dealers and go south to buy our cars (Which forced a lot of car companies in Canada to drop prices across the board). You guys don't even get that.

Hopefully Toyota won't stick this one to you guys with a high sticker.

I guess you're right.Here in Europe, governments are really oposed to people buying Japanese -mostly- cars.
But I think that I would rather buy an FT86 from your country, my friend. You see, I live in Greece.. ALL cars are more expensive here than in other countries:cry::cry::cry::cry:

I've heard so many ranges for this car, it is really hard for me to believe it will drop under 20k even at the low end.

I've seen some sites commenting 40k ?!! Now that is ridiculous to me.

I think at the high end low 30's probably
and low end - mid 20's.

I compare this car in value to maybe a year or two back Impreza WRX sti, or Evo

I think the values will compare nicely with those 4cyl, also "drift like" vehicles


Motortrend commented this car saying when released it may be the best drift car in the world :eyebulge:

I am so excited to see a new light weight, shorter than audi TT, big wheel base, sports car

GAWWW i want it so bad haha :cry: