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RawrSoft 09-20-2015 12:06 PM

Subiefest AutoX Disaster
 
I'll just bullet list the good and bad of this event, if you really wan't to know more, ask! I could not recommend going to this event in the future.

The Good!
• Quite a few friendly people showed up to attend, from experienced to first timers

• The course was fun


The Bad...
• Incredibly disorganized.

• They promised staff to run the event, but clearly there wasn't enough.

• Staff that was present was quite condescending and consistently talked down upon those attending. ( Newcomers were made fun of for missing sections or becoming confused while on course )

• Timing equipment problems multiple times during the day

• Website promised prizes for top times. When asking staff about what's clearly written on the subiefest autox page ( many people asked ), attendees were laughed at and told, " not a chance ".

• Website promised different classes. No tech inspection was even attempted. Everyone was lumped into 1 big class.


This event was proposed on their website to be an actual competition, while offering friendliness toward newer drivers. Neither was achieved in my view.

Lonewolf 09-20-2015 01:44 PM

Sounds like just a quick money grab by a bunch of douches...:iono:

DSDtrilogy 09-20-2015 03:29 PM

Do you know if the track session was organized any better? It seems like when autox days are mixed with track days, the autox always gets the short end of the stick.

ryoma 09-20-2015 04:37 PM

the whole event was poorly executed this year IMO. although the actual event was nice with the vendors and the activities, but the staff were short handed and unprepared. hopefully they get the feedback from their facebook page (a lot of people were complaining) and on the multiple forums that the organizers are active on to improve next year. and they need to pick a better date that's cooler! haha

_gt86_user 09-20-2015 06:04 PM

What a bummer about the auto X...looked like a lot of fun but I guess I didn't really see or hear what was really happening, track event seemed to be running smoothly though.

DuMa 09-20-2015 09:54 PM

thanks a lot. now confirming i wont be attending next year

Kostamojen 09-20-2015 11:55 PM

Ya, it was horrible... Last year was fantastic in comparison. This year its like nobody gave a crap, and certainly nobody was prepared. I got there and it was just Omar at the table, no timing truck, no numbered parking spots, hell it was super difficult just to get there. And the check in was down at the track booths, WTH!!!

I certainly won't be autocrossing there again next year, unless its an SCCA event or run by a proper Autocrossing organization. This was just stupid.

The good news is that it was so poorly ran it gave me plenty of time to walk around the event, which I didn't get to do last year.


Honestly, people need to be refunded for this, because all that prize money for the trophies went up in smoke.

TylerLieberman 09-20-2015 11:59 PM

Yeah, pretty bad.
I posted on SubieFest's FB page how somebody stole my foglight bezel off my car while it was in the parking lot lol.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...23599411_o.jpg

I thought about going next year just to do the track event, but the track layout looks lame as fuck, especially for the price, and I don't care to be around any of that crowd.

EpicNameBro 09-21-2015 01:00 AM

Seems like every year on here and other forums the reviews are always the same...yet people continue to go. If attendance drops then so will Vendors thus less revenue for these people that obviously don't give a damn about the community...

Kostamojen 09-21-2015 01:05 AM

I won't be going next year unless its for the track day thats for sure.

BTW here is a vid of some of my autox runs:

[ame]http://youtu.be/L01lU8-XeiU[/ame]

EDIT: On the third run you can actually see someone randomly walking onto the course with a cellphone in hand!

juliog 09-21-2015 01:12 AM

You guys should forward your feedback to the event organizers..

Kostamojen 09-21-2015 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliog (Post 2396233)
You guys should forward your feedback to the event organizers..

Someone else thatwas there is sending some emails, but the morethe marrier.

RawrSoft 09-21-2015 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSDtrilogy (Post 2395901)
Do you know if the track session was organized any better? It seems like when autox days are mixed with track days, the autox always gets the short end of the stick.

I'm not too sure. It looked as though it was a regular group track day ( there were all kinds of different cars there ) that just happened to be on the same day as subiefest.


I'll definitely take the time to write to the organizers.

fitcious 09-21-2015 12:47 PM

hopefully 86 Fest will be better!

DAEMANO 09-21-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 2396561)
hopefully 86 Fest will be better!

Reviews for this have been equally as bad. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Kostamojen 09-21-2015 10:23 PM

Here is a photo from my autox video of someone randomly walking ON the autocross course!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...efiest2015.jpg

~3:00 mark from this video

https://youtu.be/L01lU8-XeiU

And honestly, that wasn't the worst thing...

The second or third person to race the first time around, the person immediately after them pulled up and didn't know their passenger needed a helmet, and IMMEDIATELY started their lap right after the car in front of them went! :eek: Both of the cars were one behind the other on the course and nobody had red flags or were told about flags and we even tried to wave the second driver off the course but they had no idea cause they never did this before (Can't blame the new drivers if there aren't any rules in place).

This event could have seriously gone really bad really fast...

doggieboy09 09-21-2015 10:30 PM

I'm glad I didn't drive all the way to SoCal for that crap.

Mr.ac 09-21-2015 11:09 PM

Dam, sucks to hear that. But eh, an autox right next to a car show? That's just as odd as a football bat. Hopefully next year would be better.

tigermack 09-21-2015 11:11 PM

LMAO that's an autocross course?

Kostamojen 09-21-2015 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermack (Post 2397307)
LMAO that's an autocross course?

If you watch the video, you can actually see how each run the cones actually moved positions cause nothing was actually marked as to where it went :|

It was seriously the worst thing ever, someone could have been killed.

tigermack 09-21-2015 11:34 PM

I would have asked for a refund and left. Fuck that shit, I ain't wasting my tires for that.

SG02WRX 09-22-2015 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicNameBro (Post 2396228)
Seems like every year on here and other forums the reviews are always the same...yet people continue to go. If attendance drops then so will Vendors thus less revenue for these people that obviously don't give a damn about the community...

This x1000

I don't know who runs these events anymore, but I remember when these events were ran but true enthusiast. Now they seem to be a quick cash grab.
I remember my first subie fest 2008 and I don't remember this much terrible feed back.

Kostamojen 09-22-2015 12:34 AM

Last year was actually pretty good I thought.

Entry - organized, got sent straight to the autox paddock.
Autox - organized with crew and even assigned parking spots, plus actually handing out trophies and lots of competiton.
Raffle - At the end of the day and everyone was there. Lots of people stayed all day.

This year, the complete opposite... I hope all the sponsors and vendors don't come back next year.

ramiram1984 09-22-2015 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostamojen (Post 2397386)
Last year was actually pretty good I thought.

Entry - organized, got sent straight to the autox paddock.
Autox - organized with crew and even assigned parking spots, plus actually handing out trophies and lots of competiton.
Raffle - At the end of the day and everyone was there. Lots of people stayed all day.

This year, the complete opposite... I hope all the sponsors and vendors don't come back next year.

The event holders know people will go and pay regardless bc we like going to these things for personal reasons.

So they take advantage and charge up the ass for parking and or entry.

So it doesn't really matter to them if it's organized or not..
They're making their money.


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