Alignment Issues after Lowering Springs
 

Here's the story, I recently purchased this at the end of July. 2 weeks ago I had the Eibach Pro Kit installed and went to get an alignment today at the Toyota Dealership where I purchased my car.

They said they couldn't align it because they don't have the kit for my car??
I asked what kit and I forgot what he replied with because I was so confused why Toyota couldn't align their own car.

Here's the print out they gave me after the test, and I'm confused. Do I need control arms for the rear? I picked my car up at 6pm so every other shop was closed and I'll be trying again tomorrow, I might go to Subaru maybe?

Any locals in San Diego know of any good alignment places where they could fix this when Toyota couldn't?

I'm just confused! Any help would be much appreciated thank you!

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Purchase the front crash bolts,
Take it to a different shop, one that will work with you,
Tell them to max the front camber,
zero toe getting and rear.
Enjoy.

Read more about alignments on this car.
Stock does not have adjustable camber. If you want to adjust camber, you need camber bolts or camber plates up front, and lower control arms in the rear.
Stock alignment specs are for tire life and not for handling.
Any alignment shop can do an alignment.
I would personally get one or two sets of camber bolts up front, add camber(get an alignment) until its the same or more than the rear and just drive it. And then figure out what kind of alignment you want.

I'll purchase the SPC Camber Bolts and try to find a performance shop here in San Diego.

So with an alignment, the rear camber will get fixed without the need of a lower control arm? Sorry, just confused to how my rear camber will get fixed since to my knowledge there's no way of adjusting the camber in the back without these.

Thank you for the advice though, I'll try it!

Yeah I knew that the car wasn't adjustable in the front and rear unless I had crash bolts or the lower control arm. I just find it odd that Toyota couldn't do it, but I guess I'll be purchasing front bolts.

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Slow your roll.
Stock alignment is for long life tire wear.
Sporty/Track alignment is on the opposite end with more camber and less toe in the front and rear. Adding more camber in the front would make your overall alignment more track oriented. (instead of stockish front and trackish rear, which it currently is at)

Why is it odd that toyota couldn't do it? It's not adjustable to begin with and you have aftermarket springs.

So you're telling me they couldn't fix the toes of my car due to it not being adjustable? To my basic knowledge of cars I at least know that Toyota would've been able to fix the toes up front to the very least correct?

Camber in the front isn't an issue according to this diagnostic, only camber problem seems to be the right rear.

I really don't understand how Toyota couldn't fix the toes in the front. I know you seem very knowledgeable but you're only talking about camber. You aren't really helping fix the main issue here which is the front toes.

Toe is adjustable.
Did you pay?
And after they fixed the toe, the rear right camber would have been off, which is a red flag for alignment(for Toyota). Do it right or don't do it at all.
You would have paid, then driven, and noticed it not drive right, then complain and take it back only to be told they can't adjust it. Only to ask for a refund etc etc... not worth the headache.

No they just gave me my keys back lol.

The guy kindly pointed me out to some shops down the street, but it was the afternoon and most of the shops were closed so I'll just wait until I get the crash bolts and try again sometime this week.

Yeah you're right about that though, he saved me the headache by just not doing it at all. I guess I'll have to wait until my crash bolts come. I'm going to order some SPC adjustable control arms and get the camber fixed while I'm at this so I don't have to deal with this later down the line.

Thanks for the help.

Wow you should thank that tech for not charging and pointing you in the right direction. Most dealers and volume shops will just toe and go.

Rear camber is not adjustable stock and most cars vary left to right. If you just street drive its probably fine. Buy the $20 bolts, Max out front camber. Fix the toe to your liking and that's that.

I started that way. Toe out front toe in rear. It was good but I moved up to raceseng camber plates and SPL rear LCA. That's about 1000$ though and 120$ for a custom alignment at a good shop. That may be more than you want to spend but there are a lot of options in between.

I track my car so for me and my $ it was worth it. What do you intend to do with your car?

Yeah I now realize I'm pretty lucky for them to not touch the car. My car is mostly just a daily, I also like to go to some curvy roads and do some spirited driving here and there but thats about it. It will never see the track.

Well I ordered SPC Rear Lower Control Arms and SPC Camber Bolts.

I'll post my new alignment when that gets taken care of sometime this week.

I'll finally get my alignment on Monday since I just received my camber bolts and my control arms.

I've been browsing through the forums and found that people recommend -3 camber in the front and -2 in the rear with 0 toes for front and rear.

Does this sound good? I'll be telling them to align to these specs on Monday if these are good, or if anyone has some good recommendations I'd appreciate the help thank you.

Are you going to be on the track or autox every weekend and not daily drive your car? If not and just daily driving, just stick to stock specs. Ride would be better and tires will last longer.

Unless you want to be cool like the stance nation or hellaflush guys, cause you need all that camber for extra grip while parking hard bro. /sarcasm

I don't autox or go to the track. when i went to west end alignment, and told chris that my car was a daily driver, but i tend to take corners on the aggressive side and occasionally go on canyon runs, he recommended these settings:
Front -1.3° camber, 1/16" toe in
Rear -1.75° camber, 3/32" toe in

I've been driving on these settings for more than a year and am happy with them. i have camber bolts in the front and LCAs in the rear.

Don't think you will get -3 with bolts. Likely 1.5 maybe 2.

Yeah you will need to have camber plates, slot your struts, or use a 2nd set of camber bolts to get much more than -1.5 on the front


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That's extremely conservative/stable on all settings. With that much toe it, the car really won't want to turn and more camber in the rear will increase understeer as well, plus make tire wear worse.

I would suggest:

-1.5 front camber
0 front toe
-1 rear camber
1/16" total rear toe in

Did you do what was described in an earlier post? (Camber bolts and lower control arms) I'm also planning to drop in eibach.

yup.

given that it's a 90% daily driver, i went with more conservative/stable vs. twitchy. i discussed with west end what i wanted, and went with their recommended settings. i'm getting coilovers installed by them on monday, so i'll revisit the settings.

What lca do u guys recommend?

I heard SPC were good which is the one I just received in the mail.

@Mr.ac It'll mostly be a daily driver, with some canyon runs and some aggressive turning here and there but that's pretty much it. No autox or track ever.

@wparsons Thank you for suggesting these settings, I'll most likely go with these when I get it aligned on Monday.

Thank you guys for the helpful suggestions, I really appreciate it.

Got my coilovers installed today and we changed the front camber to -1.6° and 1/32" toe in. Left the rear the same.
Again, this is based on my driving habits/needs. Man, what a difference the coilovers make vs. the Swift lowering springs/stock shocks.

I went with the
-1.5 Front
0 Front toes
-1 Rear
1/16 rear toe in

I like this a lot, thank you everyone with the input. I took care of it today and it feels great.