Which Intake Would You Buy
 

Best intake for the BRZ/FR-S

TAKEDA and GReddy are the same.

My GReddy gave me 3.2whp over stock. No other mods. (Dyno proven)

FI ;)

Where is the GrimmSpeed option?

Stock with aftermarket filter ;)

^^ This, yes please

Grimmspeed

Thanks for the input, and adding grimmspeed to the list even though its not on the poll.

K&N Filter + Mishimoto Silicon Pipe, which is like 5HP/5Tq on a good day.

Can we get ten more threads like this please!

this is why nobody trusts forums.

I want to get an injen, ive read it gives the most out of most of the intakes out there. But than a again "on a good day" is a correct term. These things give such a minor boost in hp that weather temp really makes a difference. I mean if your fi engine made 300hp during the winter vs 295 in the summer who really cares about that 5hp difference.

The only one that will net meaningful gains is the one that is bolted to a supercharger.

You're assuming that some small aftermarket company can design a better tube than Subaru and Toyota who have no reason to restrict the engine in this way.

Aftermarket manufacturers will disagree with you. I'm guessing they find their net financial gains quite meaningful.

The reason aftermarket products can so easily be better than what comes with your car is because original manufacturers use heavier materials, more restrictive products that not only goes by standards of law but also helps so they don't get a lawsuit in the long run and this reduces production cost. Aftermarket products are just more like, you want light and stainless steel? Here you go, what you want louder? We'll take the car off for you too.

What is this? The 519th thread on this now? FFS.

How about a poll asking which combination of lightweight crank pulley and lightweight flywheel is best? That's new, right?

You had to go there, didn't you? :slap:

This statement looks dodgy. You need a dyno chart to validate it.

:)

lolol...


I gotta be meeeee....

Just pick the prettiest one or the one with the coolest sticker for your back window.
Many cars can benefit from an aftermarket intake. This is not one of them.

So which intake is lighter and how much lighter is it than stock?
What is less restricted by the aftermarket "products"?

I have yet to see a benefit from aftermarket intakes on modern cars. Feel free to prove me wrong, but you must PROVE me wrong, not just say "oem's are restricted" explain to me how with evidence. And imo a 5 hp gain on a dyno chart is irrelevant, too many variables and at best placebo gains.

There is no benefit to the OEM "restricting" the intake.

Because internet.

In a perfect world this is true but there are other considerations to take into account. Time to develop a better intake verses return on investment, expertise of designers, cost of manufacture, suppliers pricing (that is, does oem make the part them selves or subcontracted to an external supplier), does the engine still meet emission requirements at 200,000 kilometers? (or what ever Euro 4/5 is ).

Here it is again. I know you already know this but it may have slipped from memory. Ready?

Compromise.

What in the Green Hell is up with his hair? At least I think that's his hair. Is it? I'm so confused...

I actually did see a thread that dyno tested a bunch of intakes a year or two ago and the only one that was better than stock was the TRD intake. But from memory irs pretty damn expensive compared to just buying an aftermarket filter for pretty much the same result. Dont ask me to find the thread either :P

I think that's a decorative piece. Haven't seen this anime yet - hell, I don't even know what the name of it is. I'll get back to you once I find out. :P

There are a couple of independent Dino's done. None of them supported the claims made by the intake manufacturers. Even the TRD results were different between two independent tests. Overall any gains that were found were so low that they fell into the margin of error for dynos.

I only ever saw the one thread but those results wouldnt surprise me in the least.

You have not provided an answer, what exactly can be compromised on an air intake?

You've spouted a bunch of costs for developing hardware and implied that Toyota, of all people have shortchanged this car somehow, I'm wondering what exactly is not optimal.

I do not doubt the aftermarket can make improvements over OEM's, this is not the case for modern air intakes.

I really don't know which intake is the best for our cars but i got injen one.
It felt slight different from stock in performance, did add nice sound tho. Later I felt like it wasn't gettin enough air, so I took top lid off again I felt slight difference in throttle response.
You can argue as much as you want that sucking hot air into engine is bad...owell I been running it for few months now and it's fine as a daily driver and canyon runs. I haven't done track autocross so probably in that case it's better to put lid back on.

I want to either get aftermarket snorkel or hks air duct to see if that's ganna make even more difference. As for now injen gets the job done. Oh lol and one of my friends said my intake is louder than the exhaust lol (hks spec L)

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I would do the Mishimoto intake as it wouldn't require the MAF adjustment.

Which Intake Would You Buy
 

I hate to be "that guy" but I've read so many different times I can't even count from forum members I know I can rely on that the stock intake is very well-designed and does not need to be replaced. If you're going for a change in sound then go for it but as far as performance goes it's pretty negligent. if you're still NA The most effective/accessible mod as far as I know (and I've done a lot of reading) is a catless header and a tune. Horsepower gains seem to be 15 to 20 and torque gains range from 10-15. That pulse torque dip elimination.

That is all. Thanks for reading :)


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How this is still alive is beyond me

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My personal dyno chart:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/460/1...dcccceb6_b.jpg10426167_477207389076612_4763004759425673493_n by Dallas Owen, on Flickr


Completely stock car, no exhaust, no tune, nothing.

Dyno session was completed on baseline, intake was installed on the dyno in the same hour to control all variables.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3794/...21fd2c42_b.jpg10434141_477207265743291_6903090180086945151_n by Dallas Owen, on Flickr

Sorry, you missed the flippancy/sarcasm.
I was referring to your statement "this is why nobody trusts forums" that requires the dyno. That is, I was making fun of your statement that can't be trusted because you had posted it on a forum. :)