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Shedd22 04-02-2015 01:27 PM

Thoughts on XXR Wheels?
 
I asked this on the wheel directory on a specific wheel page so I doubt it'll get answered..thus I'm asking it here.


I've never had XXR's but the price is super tempting and I like the looks of the XXR 530's. I've heard horror stories of cracking and falling apart while driving at high and low speeds. Anyone have good AND bad experiences to share?


I DD my BRZ and haven't tracked it at all. I do some spirited driving but nothing over the top. The roads here are pretty bad in some areas. I can avoid the large potholes pretty easily, but avoiding a huge one sometimes means hitting smaller ones and I'm worried the XXRs might not hold up.

N_A 04-02-2015 01:40 PM

A lot of people bash XXR, Rota, and other knock off wheels. Personally, I've had no experience with them. And I don't think I would ever purchase a set of XXR. But that's because I just don't like their designs/weight. I'm not one to spend $3k on a set of wheels either. I'm sure they will do just fine as DD.

You get what you pay for in most cases though IMO.

dobbrz 04-02-2015 01:43 PM

they are fine if you are okay with companies taking other people's designs and producing a product with lower quality...
I used to buy replica wheels until I realized you can often buy a lightly used set of authentic wheels for almost the same price.
TLDR?: they will be fine for your use, and they will probably be a bit heavy

nastynate88 04-02-2015 01:43 PM

First and foremost, do you have a budget?

When it comes to wheels you usually get what you pay for; the XXR's are a great cast wheel that you can throw on your car without worrying much. I seriously doubt they'll disintegrate when you hit potholes, and they're cheap enough that you can replace them if they're damaged without breaking too big of a sweat.

With that said, they're really heavy and the paint on them don't seem to last very long. I was in a similar boat and bought a set of RPF1's because I knew they'd last longer and they were significantly lighter.

nastynate88 04-02-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 2196354)
they are fine if you are okay with companies taking other people's designs and producing a product with lower quality...
I used to buy replica wheels until I realized you can often buy a lightly used set of authentic wheels for almost the same price.
TLDR?: they will be fine for your use, and they will probably be a bit heavy

"Fake" wheels have a place in the market along with the Authentic ones. Rota and XXR wheels are built pretty well.

There's also no moral obligation; its not the consumer's problem that a competitor is creating a product that looks like their own.

Shedd22 04-02-2015 01:57 PM

I don't necessarily have a budget, but I'd prefer to spend less so I can buy other things. Plus I just bought a house so I'm sure I'll be throwing money into that.


Thanks for the input.


Quote:

Originally Posted by nastynate88 (Post 2196355)
First and foremost, do you have a budget?

When it comes to wheels you usually get what you pay for; the XXR's are a great cast wheel that you can throw on your car without worrying much. I seriously doubt they'll disintegrate when you hit potholes, and they're cheap enough that you can replace them if they're damaged without breaking too big of a sweat.

With that said, they're really heavy and the paint on them don't seem to last very long. I was in a similar boat and bought a set of RPF1's because I knew they'd last longer and they were significantly lighter.


raven1231 04-02-2015 02:01 PM

Well I just bought some fake XXR 530's, actually came in the mail yesterday. Sure hope they don't follow apart in a week lol. I've had replicas in the past and have never had any trouble. With the exception of a cheap replica ADR rim that was on my old 300zx. One cracked when I hit a large pot hole, but was also 9 years old at the time.

DAEMANO 04-02-2015 02:02 PM

What I've read about XXRs for the 86 over the years is this:

1. They're not really heavy in comparison to other cast wheels.
2. They're strong enough for daily driver road use
3. The paint has chipped with certain colors and models
4. The offsets and widths tend to look nice on the car e.g. 17x8.25 et35
5. The price is low in the U.S.
6. They tend to have dual drilled stud patterns, but some have gotten single drilled by contacting their vendor directly.
7. There are very few true "original" designs these days with wheels. People sometimes think they know an original wheel designer/mfg, but that ends up being a knock-off too. This is a very deep hole with little objectivity in the argument. Do what you like with it.

brandonblt2 04-02-2015 02:07 PM

Knock off wheels should be fine for normal DD and spirited driving. I just got a set of Rota Titans seem to be well made and are actually pretty light at 17 lbs. Theirs a lot of people running XXR's I have not seen any failures.

Speed2th 04-02-2015 02:09 PM

As long as you don't hit a pot hole hard, you would be ok

RobertPaulson 04-02-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 2196405)
Knock off wheels should be fine for normal DD and spirited driving. I just got a set of Rota Titans seem to be well made and are actually pretty light at 17 lbs. Theirs a lot of people running XXR's I have not seen any failures.

there's plenty of guys that drift on XXR and Rota's, the nice thing is that if you damage one its a lot cheaper to replace. however the cheaper you pay the heavier it gets.

perfect example is xxr 527 vs rota titans vs weds tc05n in a 17x9. all have the same design and similar offsets and they weight 22lbs vs 17.9lbs vs 14/15 lbs respectively.

Poodles 04-02-2015 03:08 PM

Not this argument again...

Every single big name wheel company has copied someone else at least once. This is all common knowledge and happens all the time.

replica =/= fake

Actual fake wheels I wouldn't touch as their certifications are obviously bullshit and their quality is completely unknown.

XXR and Rota are both certified (and I know for a fact that Rota is an OEM supplier in the Philippines for Toyota, etc), so I wouldn't have any issues buying from either.

Are they going to be heavier than an equivalent forged wheel? Of course, but even forged wheels crack/break and are far more expensive to replace if that happens.

eggncheese 04-02-2015 03:25 PM

I've been daily-ing mine for the past year almost in the DC metro area. I've hit some pretty nasty stuff and haven't had any problems yet. I might live under a rock, but I actually haven't heard too much about quality of the wheels. Most of the issues I've read about here on the forums were due to color, specifically, the chromium black.

Shedd22 04-02-2015 04:24 PM

Thanks everyone for the input. I feel better about them now :)

RobertPaulson 04-02-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedd22 (Post 2196688)
Thanks everyone for the input. I feel better about them now :)

if you can swing it, see if rota sells them and how much they weight, you'll certainly feel a difference if wheels are 5 lbs lighter.

Shedd22 04-02-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertPaulson (Post 2196699)
if you can swing it, see if rota sells them and how much they weight, you'll certainly feel a difference if wheels are 5 lbs lighter.



Ill check it out. I just love the mesh concave look. I was thinking about the Enkei Raijins as well but the XXRs saved me a bit of cash for other mods.

Tbird232ci 04-03-2015 05:57 AM

I've had a set of XXR's on my Trans Am for about 5 years and probably 40k miles. I've hit two curbs and only rashed them. My particular wheels have chrome lips, and the chrome is cheap. It stains and scratches very easily.

BlueDubbinTDI 04-03-2015 07:03 AM

Ive had XXR 530s since last January. 1 track day and about 18000 miles later they have not had any structural issues. I did however order Chromium black and 1 wheel didn't match the other 3 in color. This could be on the vendor as much as the maker as well though. They are plast dipped black and I wish I'd have just bought them this way.

Figo 04-03-2015 09:39 AM

I have them as winter wheels.

CatDaddysBBQ 04-03-2015 12:49 PM

Also, let's not forget that plenty of pothole damaged/cracked wheels are just as likely to be oversized wheels with really low profile tires.

I'd imagine that nearly anything in a 17" would have much issue with potholes, since there's plenty of rubber and air between the ground and the actual wheel hub. Throw a 19-20" on the car with 1/3 the sidewall of a oem setup? Sure, that's gunna hurt when it goes bang, I don't care WHO made the wheels.

But i'd be pretty surprised to see much issue with any brand's 17" wheel on our car (with properly sized tires) have much of an issue holding up.

Shedd22 04-03-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ (Post 2197801)
Also, let's not forget that plenty of pothole damaged/cracked wheels are just as likely to be oversized wheels with really low profile tires.

I'd imagine that nearly anything in a 17" would have much issue with potholes, since there's plenty of rubber and air between the ground and the actual wheel hub. Throw a 19-20" on the car with 1/3 the sidewall of a oem setup? Sure, that's gunna hurt when it goes bang, I don't care WHO made the wheels.

But i'd be pretty surprised to see much issue with any brand's 17" wheel on our car (with properly sized tires) have much of an issue holding up.

I was gonna go 18". I doubt it'll be a problem though.

zman 04-03-2015 11:40 PM

I just learned today that xxr wheels are fake lol


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niceguy21 04-04-2015 03:39 AM

In my expierence I've had more than a couple sets of xxr's in the past and I had no issues what so ever. Curb rashes them with still no problems. Cheap and inexpensive wheels in my opinion. Also as a side note too, about the "fake wheels" argument, no design will ever be someone's own actual properties, shoot companies even have similar designs that resemble each other, but no one is saying "fake company because since its expensive and probably weighs 1-5 pounds less, it must be legit". Also about the stories about beople having bad experiences with " fake wheels", usually involves unsafe suspension modifications while traveling at a high rate of speed, impacting objects or side walks at high speeds, and user error while driving or assembling their vehicle.

Shedd22 04-04-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman (Post 2198660)
I just learned today that xxr wheels are fake lol


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Hence the point of my thread haha. Just wanted to know if they'd hold up.

Shedd22 04-04-2015 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niceguy21 (Post 2198847)
In my expierence I've had more than a couple sets of xxr's in the past and I had no issues what so ever. Curb rashes them with still no problems. Cheap and inexpensive wheels in my opinion. Also as a side note too, about the "fake wheels" argument, no design will ever be someone's own actual properties, shoot companies even have similar designs that resemble each other, but no one is saying "fake company because since its expensive and probably weighs 1-5 pounds less, it must be legit". Also about the stories about beople having bad experiences with " fake wheels", usually involves unsafe suspension modifications while traveling at a high rate of speed, impacting objects or side walks at high speeds, and user error while driving or assembling their vehicle.

Ya know...you seem like a nice guy. No pun intended.

dobbrz 04-05-2015 02:04 AM

okay...its not just about the designs being copied..it is about the quality as well. If you have a certain budget then you will be buying wheels to fit that budget. Companies like XXR make money because there is a market for them. That doesn't take away from the fact that "authentic" wheels will always be of higher quality. It's just a bit annoying after awhile for those who paid for quality and originality to see somebody with the knockoff lower quality version of their wheel. I'm not hating..I ran varrstoens before..they hold up well for daily use..but they aren't near the same quality of te37s and thats just the way it is

superleggera 04-05-2015 11:08 AM

I had a set of xxr's on my miata for a few years before I was able to afford "nice" wheels (picked up a set of work meisters). Never had an issue with them, but I also didn't daily drive that car either.

Vten 04-05-2015 11:54 AM

They're a great wheels for the $$ , had them for about a year ,dd them without any complain. just need to know your road and application. I won't use them for a track duty , but hey Even the $11K Dymag magnesium and carbon fiber barrel cracks too ...ask me how I know that :)

Turbowned 04-05-2015 09:45 PM

I have XXR's on my MR2 right now so I'm not a total hater, but I don't like that most of their wheels are copycatting other's designs. The 527's are about the only one I don't see them copying anything else with. In any case, they're cheap enough that if you f**k one up on a pothole or curb, you can replace it without without wishing yourself dead. I wouldn't buy another set though when there are so many good used wheel options that probably weigh less and look better.

andrew5826 04-06-2015 05:46 AM

running xxr 527 17x8.25 for the past year and a half no issues!


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