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MikeM7 03-29-2015 12:49 PM

Finally installing my mods
 
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So I'm finally catching up on installs this weekend... the anticipation is killing me :)

Got most of it done yesterday, finishing today. I can't wait to see what kind of difference doing all these at once will make! Just hope it's not TOO loud.

Comments and questions welcome. I will let you all know how it turns out later today (hopefully).

jvincent 03-29-2015 12:52 PM

The OFH + OFT stage 2 will be a noticeable performance difference.

Don't forget to let the car idle for a few minutes after flashing the new tune!

WhiteFRS69 03-29-2015 12:52 PM

looks like a nice start :thumbsup:

raven1231 03-29-2015 12:55 PM

Headers will make a nice difference as well! Enjoy man!

DuMa 03-29-2015 01:18 PM

does the OFT have maps for an aftermarket header?

MikeM7 03-29-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DuMa (Post 2189909)
does the OFT have maps for an aftermarket header?

I'm pretty sure OpenFlash Tablet supports OpenFlash Header :P

They sell the Perrin exhaust on their website and in their bundles as well.

http://openflashtablet.com/Automotive/FRS/index.html

Honestly, I don't fully understand how the maps work yet. I ran the stage 1 when I got it but I haven't figured out how to find and download new tunes. If I remember correctly, there is a stage 2 that comes with it. I don't know if there's a different stage 2 tune for one header vs another though, or if it's just a generic tune for exhaust mods.

I just wasn't that worried about that part yet because I'm sure I can figure it out with some googling.

jvincent 03-29-2015 02:11 PM

With the OFH you want to use the Stage2 UEL tune.

All of the tune files are one their website assuming they didn't come loaded with your OFT. I would also update the OFT before flashing since they made an update which speeds up the flash time a few weeks ago.

MikeM7 03-29-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jvincent (Post 2189943)
With the OFH you want to use the Stage2 UEL tune.

All of the tune files are one their website assuming they didn't come loaded with your OFT. I would also update the OFT before flashing since they made an update which speeds up the flash time a few weeks ago.

Thanks, I downloaded a folder full of tunes from OFT earlier, along with OpenFlash manager. I'm not sure how to update OFT though, is it on this page? Pic below.

As for the tunes I downloaded, it looks like there are 6 Stage 2 UEL tunes for US 6MT.

700C
900C
A00C
A01C
B00C
B01C

Not sure what the differences are.. anyone got a link that will explain?

raven1231 03-29-2015 05:17 PM

yeah it's based on your cars specific ECU calibration. When you hook up the OFT it will tell you yours.

jvincent 03-29-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM7 (Post 2190102)
Thanks, I downloaded a folder full of tunes from OFT earlier, along with OpenFlash manager. I'm not sure how to update OFT though, is it on this page? Pic below.

As for the tunes I downloaded, it looks like there are 6 Stage 2 UEL tunes for US 6MT.

700C
900C
A00C
A01C
B00C
B01C

Not sure what the differences are.. anyone got a link that will explain?

steve99 has a thread with all the OFT tips and tricks.

To update the OFT, just plug it in to your computer and launch the OFM. It will automatically update the OFM and OFT.

Assuming your car isn't really new and has a ECU calibration ID that is not recognized by the OFT, when you first plug it in it should detect one of the above IDs and create all of the required tune files on the tablet.

If it doesn't then you will need to load the files manually.

MikeM7 03-29-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jvincent (Post 2190195)
steve99 has a thread with all the OFT tips and tricks.

To update the OFT, just plug it in to your computer and launch the OFM. It will automatically update the OFM and OFT.

Assuming your car isn't really new and has a ECU calibration ID that is not recognized by the OFT, when you first plug it in it should detect one of the above IDs and create all of the required tune files on the tablet.

If it doesn't then you will need to load the files manually.

I have already been running stage 1 tune so I've got that part down. I found Steve's thread already, search ftw. I've got it figured out and am uploading updated tunes to my OFT now. Will have it tuned and ready to drive within 20 minutes hopefully :)

Edit: Actually I'm stuck.. I chose the files to upload and they are showing in step 2, but when I click "start" it just doesn't do anything : /

jvincent 03-29-2015 07:14 PM

Not sure what's going on there. Did you choose the correct Cal ID?

MikeM7 03-29-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jvincent (Post 2190214)
Not sure what's going on there. Did you choose the correct Cal ID?

Yeah, A00C, although it's kind of strange because all of the original tunes say A01C. If I try to upload an A01C, it will give me the error that's it's not the correct file type.

If I choose A00C, it says what it's supposed to, but I just can't click start.

Edit: I closed out of manager and unplugged the OFT. Went back in and some of them showed that they had been added. I added another, and now the start button is clickable, so I guess it's working now.

x1UP 03-29-2015 09:28 PM

Is that the Perrin full exhaust system? Is yours resonated or non-resonated? Looking forward to your final set up!

MikeM7 03-29-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by x1UP (Post 2190339)
Is that the Perrin full exhaust system? Is yours resonated or non-resonated? Looking forward to your final set up!

Perrin 2.5in resonated catback and Openflash Header. The overpipe (between header and catback) is still stock.

I'm finally done.. I have been working on this damn car since yesterday afternoon nonstop. I went ahead and did the intake tube, fog lights, and side markers too. The only thing I have left is the clutch slave cylinder.

When I started her up, it was LOUD. It was idling at about 1400 rpm, and my room mate and his buddy said it shook the house. I think they were sitting directly above the garage.

After it dropped down to about 900 rpm, it was completely fine, very quiet. When I got on the road it was just right. Sounded nice and racecarish, loud enough to notice, but wasn't overbearing in the cabin and I doubt I was turning heads from a block away or anything.

I'm too exhausted to get into much detail now, but it sounds really nice and it's just subtle enough while still getting noisy when you want it to. Nice smooth sound, I don't have any complaints aside from the thunderous cold start. I might have to tweak that down a bit.

Teseo 03-30-2015 12:57 AM

I guess oft can get rid off coldstar.
In for a video of your new set up, oh dont forget drive by video also

LXXXV1 03-30-2015 12:57 AM

How did you refrain from installing them when they came in the mail?! Lol damn tfw it was all installed though...

MikeM7 03-30-2015 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LXXXV1 (Post 2190559)
How did you refrain from installing them when they came in the mail?! Lol damn tfw it was all installed though...

Lack of time, tools, space, knowledge and parts. It took a while to get it all together and go through all the DIY's and everything. I've had these parts for about a month I think.

I had already replaced all the interior trim, did wheel spacers, clutch adjustment, shark fin, and some other stuff, so I've been working on it some before this. I also built a shed in the back yard to make room in the garage.

BBYZILA 03-30-2015 11:45 AM

hi mike, keep us updated on how it all sounds once its broken in. My perrin resonated 2.5 in catback sounded a lot better/deeper after it was broken in.

KDad2 03-30-2015 12:16 PM

The license plate frame will add at least 83 HP! When you get done with the installs, head out to the three sisters route.

MokSpeed 03-30-2015 12:20 PM

It's actually better that you waited until you got all your mods in at that point. Now you only have to go under your car once to install all your new exhaust components as well as your header. Man that's going to feel so satisfying when you're done. Good luck and keep us updated whether or not you feel the difference in performance after the OFT flash!

MikeM7 03-30-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2191030)
It's actually better that you waited until you got all your mods in at that point. Now you only have to go under your car once to install all your new exhaust components as well as your header. Man that's going to feel so satisfying when you're done. Good luck and keep us updated whether or not you feel the difference in performance after the OFT flash!

It's all done already, and yes, it was better to knock it out all at once. It was pretty painful though, I'm still sore lol. If I have time this afternoon and I will try to do some videos of idle, revs, drive by etc.

On a side note.. I finally got it registered today so I'm not driving on dead plates anymore.

:thumbup:

The $1,100 in taxes sure did sting though.

MikeM7 03-31-2015 02:44 PM

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I tried to take a few clips this morning, but they didn't turn out good at all. There was construction going on across the street. Too much background noise. I'll try again when I start her up to leave work today.

Here are my side markers though

MokSpeed 03-31-2015 04:20 PM

It's amazing how getting rid of little amber side markers can improve the whole look of the car.

MikeM7 03-31-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2193034)
It's amazing how getting rid of little amber side markers can improve the whole look of the car.

Yeah it's a very noticeable improvement. When it's parked at least.. not a fan of the amber LED. I'm seriously considering just getting white LED's and sayin F the police.

They haven't bothered me about the front plate yet. Never had one on my jeep either.

MokSpeed 03-31-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM7 (Post 2193087)
Yeah it's a very noticeable improvement. When it's parked at least.. not a fan of the amber LED. I'm seriously considering just getting white LED's and sayin F the police.

They haven't bothered me about the front plate yet. Never had one on my jeep either.

The Texas law regarding front plates was revised this past September 2014. I'm too lazy to find the link for the exact article, but as of now it states that a front license plate is only required when operating a vehicle on the freeway/highway. On occasion I will get pulled over for not having my front plate at all, but I'm pretty sure they're just seeing if they can get me for anything else while I'm stopped. They always say they're "letting me off with a warning", but I know my rights. Also seeing as I have yet to get pulled over on the freeway for not having my plate, I'm well within them.

:word:

kch 03-31-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2193161)
The Texas law regarding front plates was revised this past September 2014. I'm too lazy to find the link for the exact article, but as of now it states that a front license plate is only required when operating a vehicle on the freeway/highway. On occasion I will get pulled over for not having my front plate at all, but I'm pretty sure they're just seeing if they can get me for anything else while I'm stopped. They always say they're "letting me off with a warning", but I know my rights. Also seeing as I have yet to get pulled over on the freeway for not having my plate, I'm well within them.

:word:

In Texas you are required to have a front license plate on ANY public road. You are correct that Tex. Trans. Code § 504.943 states:

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Sec. 504.943. OPERATION OF VEHICLE WITHOUT LICENSE PLATE. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway, during a registration period, a motor vehicle that does not display two license plates that:
(1) have been assigned by the department for the period; and
(2) comply with department rules regarding the placement of license plates.
Emphasis added.

However, see Tex. Trans. Code § 502.001(35):

Quote:

(35) "Public highway" includes a road, street, way, thoroughfare, or bridge:
(A) that is in this state;
(B) that is for the use of vehicles;
(C) that is not privately owned or controlled; and
(D) over which the state has legislative jurisdiction under its police power.
Accordingly, you can be ticketed for driving without a front license plate, whether you're on a highway or surface streets.

MokSpeed 03-31-2015 05:46 PM

I guess I've just been extremely lucky.

Well that clears that up. Thank you!

kch 03-31-2015 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2193184)
I guess I've just been extremely lucky.

Well that clears that up. Thank you!

Happy to help. For what it's worth, I've heard of several people in my city with sports cars (vettes, etc) who have never been hassled about their front plate. It's really hit or miss. I confess that I ride dirty from time to time myself.

Edit: my understanding is the recent change to the law was to (re)add a penalty for the violation. Due to poor legal drafting, there was a period of time where it was illegal to drive without a front plate but there was no established penalty for doing so. That is, they could pull you over (I guess) but not give you a ticket. I think the recent change was just to fix that oversight.

vividracing 03-31-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM7 (Post 2193087)
Yeah it's a very noticeable improvement. When it's parked at least.. not a fan of the amber LED. I'm seriously considering just getting white LED's and sayin F the police.

They haven't bothered me about the front plate yet. Never had one on my jeep either.

Well if you put it THAT way, I personally did this to my BRZ because I wasn't happy with just the amber or the clear or smoke, I just decided to hide it altogether. Professionally painted. (Note, dirty car lol) It looks so much better to just not have it at all, and nobody notices it's missing which is the point.

-RyanG

MikeM7 04-01-2015 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 2193188)
Happy to help. For what it's worth, I've heard of several people in my city with sports cars (vettes, etc) who have never been hassled about their front plate. It's really hit or miss. I confess that I ride dirty from time to time myself.

Here's the thing about these kinds of tickets.. In all my experiences in several states, all you have to do is fix the issue and they will drop the ticket. Tint too dark? No front plate? Wrong lights? Fix it, take a picture, bring it to court, you're off. I have never not been given that option by the cop at the time of the ticket.

The last time it happened I was on my CBR and was ticketed for having insufficient reflectors, among a couple other things. My reflectors were on the back of the license plate screws, but apparently you have to have these atrocious things sticking out on both sides with big reflectors at the end. I didn't even screw them on.. I just rested them in place long enough to take the picture.

Or you can just pay the 40-100 dollars if missing work is more expensive, I don't think you even get points for these things. Years ago one of my friends got regular tickets for his tint and just sent them a check every time.

If I get pulled over more than once for the plate, I'll put a front one on just to avoid the hassle, but I'm going on 3 years without one and it's never been brought up even when I did get pulled over.

Another fun fact about Texas, you can get two speeding tickets a year without anything going on your record or any points. They also have a tendency to lose tickets, I've had 2 in the last 3 years that they wouldn't let me pay. The first one they actually mailed the check back to my old place in Virgina, the second one they said they couldn't find it and wanted me to bring it in so they could "stamp it". I just laughed and was like ok, and then never gave it another thought.

MikeM7 04-01-2015 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 2193193)
Well if you put it THAT way, I personally did this to my BRZ because I wasn't happy with just the amber or the clear or smoke, I just decided to hide it altogether. Professionally painted. (Note, dirty car lol) It looks so much better to just not have it at all, and nobody notices it's missing which is the point.

-RyanG

That is brilliant.. love it

MikeM7 04-01-2015 02:03 AM

So I finally got some videos up. Sorry for the delay.. full day of work then a full night of picking up furniture. Got a really nice bedroom set off craigslist but it was two full truckloads an hour away. Not the best way to follow a weekend of installs.. pretty damn sore.

Anyway, here's the vids. I can take more, just let me know what you want. I don't have a go pro or anything, just using my Google Nexus5. If you want to see the RPM's I guess I could have a passenger hold the phone while I drive. Or maybe I'll just put a rubber band around my head and stick the phone in it for a poor man's go pro :)

Cold Start/Idle (it drops down to normal idle noise at about 50 seconds, at that point it is very quiet, 900ish RPM)
[ame]http://youtu.be/dJfUd5E9F5I[/ame]

Revs
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zzLGTV86tg"]YouTube[/ame]

Driving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlrx...ature=youtu.be

MokSpeed 04-01-2015 11:07 AM

Very nice. Have you flashed the ECU yet? If so what tune file did you end up going with?

MikeM7 04-01-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2194344)
Very nice. Have you flashed the ECU yet? If so what tune file did you end up going with?

Yes, OFT Stage 2 93 octane UEL.

Seriously considering giving the E85 a try...

MokSpeed 04-01-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM7 (Post 2194522)
Yes, OFT Stage 2 93 octane UEL.

Seriously considering giving the E85 a try...

That's the same tune I'm flashed on. I'm not sure if you've had the chance to do some spirited driving, but the torque of the midrange RPMs are significantly better.

If you haven't already I'd subscribe to the OFT threads on here. People have reported a very noticeable difference in performance once going E85. I'm tempted to go resonated (catless) and see if that really opens up the car since I want to stay on 93.

MikeM7 04-01-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2194601)
That's the same tune I'm flashed on. I'm not sure if you've had the chance to do some spirited driving, but the torque of the midrange RPMs are significantly better.

If you haven't already I'd subscribe to the OFT threads on here. People have reported a very noticeable difference in performance once going E85. I'm tempted to go resonated (catless) and see if that really opens up the car since I want to stay on 93.

What is your reason for wanting to stay 93?

Timmy_Jones 04-01-2015 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM7 (Post 2193981)
Anyway, here's the vids. I can take more, just let me know what you want.

FYI - the videos are all private. Cannot view them.

MikeM7 04-01-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 2194929)
FYI - the videos are all private. Cannot view them.

Sorry, I thought by posting the links that would allow you to view them. It has worked in the past.. maybe I pasted the wrong link. I'll fix.

Edit: All videos should now be set to "unlisted" instead of "private"

BBYZILA 04-01-2015 10:11 PM

mike how do you feel about the performance after the UEL and tune? is it noticeable?

have you had a chance to decrease the starting rpm to lower the cold start volume?

sounds raw as hell, im just afraid its too loud at startup, my neighbors would want to kill me..

thx


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