Sat 3-28-2015 Track day hosted by Alfa Romeo of Oregon (AROO) at PIR
 

Who's coming to the track day hosted by Alfa Romeo of Oregon at Portland International Raceway Saturday March 28th?

$150 for early registration!

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events...1#.VO-kkfnF9JM

Early Registration thru Feb 28th is $150 for one driver & one car,
Pre-Registration, March 1st thru March 20th is $195 for one driver & one car,
Registration Period March 21 thru March 27 is $240 for one driver & one car
2nd driver $80, 3-6th Drivers $70
Registration Day of (at) the event is $260.

I am.

so tempting..

Signed up, now I've just got to find some race gas. Maybe I'll try Sunoco this year as it's a fair bit cheaper than VP.

Does insurance cover these sort of events?

If not, can one buy insurance specific to a track day?

depends on your insurance wording...and yes you can buy track specific insurance it's like $200 per day or something

When you register at www.motorsportsreg.com there is a link for track day insurance.

You can sometimes fight to get it covered by normal insurance, but it hinges entirely on how the term "racing activity" is formally defined in your policy (and yes "racing activity" is called out in just about every policy). In any case going that route will take months and will likely involve lawyers. If it is something that is important to you, there is nearly always supplemental insurance available specifically for track days. I do not believe these cover mechanical failures, and they usually run (like @thehapaone said) at around $170-$200 per event.

And for anyone interested, Wilcox & Fliegel sells sunoco race fuels at around 1/2 the cost of VP. I just bought 5 gallons of 104 octane oxygenated and 5 gallons of 98 ethanol free for a total of $120.

yeah, just checked with my agent. A firm no on track day or anything track related.

I'd definitely pick up coverage when I do enter these events this year.

Having tracked on motorcycles at PIR, Ridge and ORP its cheap in the long run and peace of mind.

You will ALWAYS get a firm "no" if you ask prior to a track-day. The fights and lawyers thing happens after an incident and is usually based on obscure wording of that section of your policy documents. For instance, it is possible (in the absence of a formal definition within the policy) to argue that a track day is not "racing activity". The term "race" hinges on there being a competitive aspect, and since one cannot win an HPDE, it is not "racing". But again, that would be a long process and you'd be without a car for a while.

Wrong move. Now they will flag you as a possible driver that races his car. Insurance company thrive on statistics and risk management. They will use every aspect of your personal being to assess your risk. Even credit score. I won't be surprised if they already look through your social media.

don't tell them anything. When an incident occurs at the track, have it towed out side of the track. I've heard of a few people doing this, not sure what the whole process/scamming is though.

Are you gonna use all that? Or you think we can share? Highly considering going to this track day. Lets see how long pads last in a 4000lb car lol.

I'm not sure I have enough to cover your new car's drinking problem :lol:

But I know I'll go through it (and more) over the course of the summer, just not sure when exactly yet. The 98 is super stable so I don't really have to worry about it going bad on me, the 104 on the other hand (once opened) has about a 1.5 month shelf life. However, you might not want to run the 104, it'll make the car run up to 8% leaner without the computer knowing.

yeah, i have no intentions of scamming like that. implications are bad if got caught for scamming insurance companies. For instance, if an ex gf snitched or someone who is jealous or just has a bone to pick with you can report you after the fact. The statute of limitations on insurance fraud is i bleive 2 years which means, if they find out in that time period they can come after you.


Anyways, just a question. I got my answers.
We live the land of "i'll sue your ass, cause you have an ass, not cause you are an ass"

i'd rather cover my ass.

edit: by the way, i think you and I have a common friend in jnicola..

Do you tune for that high octane gas? How much faster do you think you are with it vs without?

I use it purely as knock repellent. The gains from specific tuning would be similar to what people see on E85, but only if you fill your tank with it (way too much $$$ imo). I mix about 1:5 race/pump gas to bump my octane to the 94-95 range.

I use 92 ethanol free for the track and have never had knock issues. Have you had knock issues in the past?

I'm paranoid, the engine was designed and factory tuned to operate on 93 minimum with provisions enabling operation on as low as 91 with reduced performance and light knocking (this is stated directly in the manual). I don't feel comfortable running just Oregon pump gas at the track when I've seen two concurrent fill ups from the same "top tier" station perform differently in logs. On the stock rom and a tank of "bad" 92, I have seen the computer sense knocking and pull timing to compensate. For the record, I didn't hear or feel any knocking during that tank and am going entirely on what the ECU was telling me.

From what I've seen however, the ECU is pretty good overall at adjusting itself to account for fuel quality.

I wish I could go but until all these damn medical bills are paid off or I settle, whichever comes first, I don't have the money.

You could just do what I did and have someone else pay for you and share your car. ;)

You sharing with Robert?

Yes I am. Wonder if he would share/pay for someone else as well so he could go twice as much. That way Kevin could go for free. :)

I used Torco Accelerator at ORP with no issues. It gets the best reviews of any race fuel concentrate or additive. Cheaper and potentially 105 octane depending on your blend, higher than you can get locally. Dyno charts are on their site.

I think a half-can will get about 98 on a twin's full tank of 92 but don't recall exactly. Shelf life unopened of 18 months according to the manufacturer. It took about 3-4 days to arrive then I filled a couple of days early and drove around to let the ECU adapt. Butt dyno said buy it again.

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http://torcoracefuel.net/pro-accelerator.html

Got an email this morning that discounted Pre-Registration of $195 is extended through Monday 3/23.

Ten Miatas and counting so far, must be some kind of club event tie-in. Just hope they aren't all Spec cars or they'll be buzzing all around annoying everyone with their speed.

Long range weather is looking fairly good, precip chance starting at 20% and decreasing all day, temps low 50's to mid-60's. I'm bringing a canopy just in case.

So that's how you kept up with me out there, I'll have to try that stuff. :)


Budget only allows for one track day that weekend, so I'll be at ORP for the TC event on Sunday. May drop by on Saturday and see how you're doing. Have fun. Robert, I'll bring the Spyder if I do.

What? It was raw talent. Very raw. :D

It was so much fun trying to match pace with you that day. You had me regretting replacing the RE-11A's with mushy PSS's.

Yeah, bring your Spyder out, my favorite MR2, and hang with us. Have fun at TC, too, and let us know how it went.

Looking forward to seeing everyone at the track on Saturday.. Hoping the weather forecast is accurate...

Holy crap, you're alive! :confused0068:

I'm still chasing your laptimes from 2013!

Hah, yeah despite my best intentions I think I only made it out once last year, in the early spring. Hopefully this year will be better... I'm assuming I'll be at the back of the pack though, you guys have all had an extra year to practice!

I'm sure you'll be at the back of the pack... briefly... when you lap us :thumbsup:

I might come out in the afternoon to watch a few runs unfortunately my morning is slammed or I'd be out there with you guys

Uploaded 8 videos of my car to my Youtube account. Here's links to 3.

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Josh, nice videos!

It was an epiphany driving your worked and sorted car. Corner exit grunt reminded me of my Supra TT but with better steering and balance. Once I recalibrated reflexes and got comfortable, your car felt as controllable as my stock FR-S meaning confidence inspiring. Thanks for letting me ride share, it was a great experience.

Running Novice was shooting fish in a barrel although there were several hot shoes also ride sharing like the guy in the SVT Cobra Mustang. On my last full 20 minute stint, starting last like the other stints, I lapped the field.

Great seeing Doug, Sam, Jon and Brandon out there having fun and supporting the cause.

Hope to see all of you at a track somewhere again soon.

Not gonna lie, that supercharger sounds bad-ass.

Exotic sounding and feeling. It's the throttle response of Josh's car that impressed me most. Instant torque, like having a DC motor connected to the throttle sensor, wow. If I were considering F/I on a twin, the easy choice would be an S/C. No TS/C I've driven on other cars can match the useful power curve of that Innovate S/C.

Good to see you guys Saturday. Wished I could have run with you, but the budget only allowed 1 track day this weekend and as you know I'm partial to ORP. It was a good day on Sunday. I found some people to run with in nearly every session. Always great when you find some folks that are closely matched. I did manage to loop my car for the first time. Trying hard to catch a friend who drives a Lotus 7 replica. I got a bit to aggressive and put a wheel on a curb. I guess I unloaded the left rear when I went over it and did a 180, ended up in the dirt. The car is fine but covered in dust inside and out. I've got quite a project ahead of me to get it clean again. Hope to see all of you out there again soon.

Which turn? I've gone off in T3 (start of the mini corkscrew) and T14 (downhill and off camber in CCW direction) at ORP.

I've crashed at both those two turns on a bike lols Both going CW. TUrn 14 becomes uphill, off camber and blind. that last one hurt.

car sounds great by the way Josh. neat vids

Turn 7. We were running CCW so it's a very mild blind right hander. It's full throttle for me but you don't want to hit the curb!