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Mikeez 02-23-2015 12:20 AM

Which Meguiar Product Removes dirt and grime?
 
Looking for a product which safely lubricate the dirt and grime, allowing it to glide from the vehicles paint without affecting the clear coat. Without touching the car just yet, I will hand wash it afterwards.

However, I am only looking for the product that will allow most the dirt and grime to be removed with a rinse.

aegisdrgn 02-23-2015 12:29 AM

Might have to resort to mechanical methods, like a pressure washer. Or a foam cannon to help the soap stick to the surface longer to do it's dirt lifting magic?

WhiteFRS69 02-23-2015 12:05 PM

those are just car soap,

you want pre-wash that will loosen the dirt/grime before giving it a good rinse/hand wash
your not gonna find the best products to do this job at your local Auto Zone IMO

Mikeez 02-23-2015 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegisdrgn (Post 2143466)
Might have to resort to mechanical methods, like a pressure washer. Or a foam cannon to help the soap stick to the surface longer to do it's dirt lifting magic?

Indeed, to wash the car I will have to go mechanical method. Before I do, I want to find a chemical-aid that will help lift off most of the dirt and grimes. I just need a spray, I found few online.. but expensive to export to Canada.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteFRS69 (Post 2143849)
those are just car soap,

you want pre-wash that will loosen the dirt/grime before giving it a good rinse/hand wash
your not gonna find the best products to do this job at your local Auto Zone IMO

I've been suggested a powerful pre-wash chemicals.. but they are expensive to export.


I will give it a hand wash once I pre-wash it touchless. The reason why, is to clean the car at least 50% before actually hand washing....

WhiteFRS69 02-23-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeez (Post 2143967)
Indeed, to wash the car I will have to go mechanical method. Before I do, I want to find a chemical-aid that will help lift off most of the dirt and grimes. I just need a spray, I found few online.. but expensive to export to Canada.



I've been suggested a powerful pre-wash chemicals.. but they are expensive to export.


I will give it a hand wash once I pre-wash it touchless. The reason why, is to clean the car at least 50% before actually hand washing....


if your going to hand wash, use the two bucket method and invest in some grit guards for your buckets

wash one panel at a time

also look into the Garry Deen wash method, popular way of washing a car

Mikeez 02-23-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteFRS69 (Post 2144018)
if your going to hand wash, use the two bucket method and invest in some grit guards for your buckets

wash one panel at a time

also look into the Garry Deen wash method, popular way of washing a car


I know the double bucket method and the way I wash the car is the following:
- 2 buckets
- Panel / Panel ONLY top part
- Panel / Panel ONLY Med part
- Panel / Panel ONLY last part

Anyways, I don't want to know how to hand washh.. :(

I just want a chemical substance that will help me remove most of the dirt before hand washing...... The soap doesn't do anything touchless. Any touchless method before actually hand waching????

WhiteFRS69 02-23-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeez (Post 2144034)
I know the double bucket method and the way I wash the car is the following:
- 2 buckets
- Panel / Panel ONLY top part
- Panel / Panel ONLY Med part
- Panel / Panel ONLY last part

Anyways, I don't want to know how to hand washh.. :(

I just want a chemical substance that will help me remove most of the dirt before hand washing...... The soap doesn't do anything touchless. Any touchless method before actually hand waching????

there are tons of products available, but from my knowledge, meguiars does not have a pre-wash

find a company in Canada that provides products like Sonax, Auto Finesse, etc etc

i personally been using Auto Finesse Citrus Power grime remover like i mentioned before

WhiteFRS69 02-23-2015 03:11 PM

you could always invest in a steam cleaner, that would help break down salt/grime

Kotu100 02-23-2015 03:27 PM

Pressure washer and a foam cannon.
Prespray with the pressure washer to remove largest particulates. Foam cannon with some nice foaming soap and let dwell for 5 minutes. Then pressure wash again to remove soap and remaning road grime.
Anything this method leaves behind you'll need to physically touch the paint to clean it further.

WhiteFRS69 02-23-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotu100 (Post 2144110)
Pressure washer and a foam cannon.
Prespray with the pressure washer to remove largest particulates. Foam cannon with some nice foaming soap and let dwell for 5 minutes. Then pressure wash again to remove soap and remaning road grime.
Anything this method leaves behind you'll need to physically touch the paint to clean it further.

believe he is looking for something like ONR, where its a waterless wash

but he is looking for something that will cut down the grime/salt without harming the vehicle

Kotu100 02-23-2015 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteFRS69 (Post 2144236)
believe he is looking for something like ONR, where its a waterless wash

but he is looking for something that will cut down the grime/salt without harming the vehicle


Personally I'm not a fan of swirl marks in a bottle.


OP if you have access to a self serve car wash it may be worth the couple bucks to just use the pressure washer and soap, if you don't want to or can't hand wash it.


*edit* Just a FYI, I use Gold class in my foam gun and the foam is thick. It definitely grabs hold and loosens up some dirt that the initial rinse didn't. Special foaming soaps don't NEED to be used. The pressure of the pressure washer matching the recommended pressure on the foam cannon is what gives great suds.

Mikeez 02-24-2015 02:57 AM

Okay guys, I know what to do... :)
I will buy a pre-wash and just apply it and wait for summer ;3'

Thanks for the help

SurfAndSand 02-25-2015 06:52 AM

Spray it down with good pressure. Wash it using your preferred method. Clay bar it. Then hit it with some polishing cream and a random orbital buffer?

Mikeez 02-26-2015 12:43 AM

Guys I am not asking how to wash the car =p. Is there any chemical that I can spray my car and then when I pressure wash my car... most or little dirt and grimes fall off?

johan 02-26-2015 02:14 AM

You need clay. That's the answer you're looking for here. Pick up the Meguiars clay bar kit, wash the car, and then follow the directions on the kit. For more info look at videos on youtube of the technique.

Clay is the only safe way to remove stuck on grime from the paint - it won't mar - it won't remove paint - and it'll make your paint as smooth as a baby's bottom.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

Mikeez 02-26-2015 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan (Post 2147686)
You need clay. That's the answer you're looking for here. Pick up the Meguiars clay bar kit, wash the car, and then follow the directions on the kit. For more info look at videos on youtube of the technique.

Clay is the only safe way to remove stuck on grime from the paint - it won't mar - it won't remove paint - and it'll make your paint as smooth as a baby's bottom.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

Clay is after I washed the car and the I decontaminate it..

What I want is a SPECIAL SOAP that will make the dirt on my car easily removable by water. Before Clay Bar and Before even Washing the car. The pre-wash step

WhiteFRS69 02-26-2015 11:49 AM

do you have access to a hose??

Mikeez 02-26-2015 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteFRS69 (Post 2147973)
do you have access to a hose??


Yes, I also have a pressure washer.

This is what I do:
1. Wash car with water
2. Wash car with pressure washer (medium valve)
3. I use the soap dispenser on the pressure washer and wait 5 min
4. Pressure wash the car


Most of the dirt is like glued to my car and before actually hand washing. I want to remove 50% BEFORE I hand wash. So I need a powerful soap that will break it down and when I come to pressure wash it, it falls off.

WhiteFRS69 02-26-2015 01:41 PM

when you mean soap dispenser... do you mean like a foam cannon??


i believe i said this before, but look into Auto Finesse products,
specially the citrus grime remover

Kotu100 02-26-2015 07:43 PM

Foam cannon + megs gold class = super foam.
http://nemotorsport.com/boards/image...f888ee704f.jpg


Get some foam like this and let it sit on the car for a few minutes then pressure wash off. I really don't think you're gonna get the surface cleaner than that without touching it.

Mikeez 02-27-2015 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteFRS69 (Post 2148138)
when you mean soap dispenser... do you mean like a foam cannon??


i believe i said this before, but look into Auto Finesse products,
specially the citrus grime remover

Yes you mentioned it before, but I was still looking for a powerful chemical. I will check citrus grime remover. Thank you.

The soap dispenser is like the foam cannon. However, it doesn't make the soap foam as much as the foam cannon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotu100 (Post 2148753)
Foam cannon + megs gold class = super foam.

Get some foam like this and let it sit on the car for a few minutes then pressure wash off. I really don't think you're gonna get the surface cleaner than that without touching it.

Nice haha, okay thanks.

Mikeez 02-27-2015 09:30 PM

*Thread updated, please read main post*

SurfAndSand 02-27-2015 11:38 PM

Safely is a subjective term. If you're gonna get something strong enough to eat away dirt without you touching it, and without it etching your paint then you should definitely share the info when you find this miracle product.

We all want this SPECIAL SOAP.

Find your local detailer store. They might have better information that what you're gonna find here. I know a bit about detailing, but there's nothing that I found that can do what you're asking.

Mikeez 02-27-2015 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfAndSand (Post 2150519)
Safely is a subjective term. If you're gonna get something strong enough to eat away dirt without you touching it, and without it etching your paint then you should definitely share the info when you find this miracle product.

We all want this SPECIAL SOAP.

Find your local detailer store. They might have better information that what you're gonna find here. I know a bit about detailing, but there's nothing that I found that can do what you're asking.

Do not take word for word, do you get what I am looking for? Not eat away, but loosen the dirt from the car for it to fall down when I rinse off.

That SPECIAL MAGICAL SOAP ;).

SurfAndSand 02-28-2015 04:53 AM

Hmmm...try soap canon loaded with dishwasher liquid? That stuff is expected to loosen grime without touching the dishes, right?

I would expect that stuff to sap oils from your paint and such though. You'd probably have to condition your paint after something like that.

Maybe try several passes with regular car wash soap in a soap canon several times?

Dunno. At this point, your guess is as good as mine.

Mikeez 02-28-2015 12:31 PM

Well thanks :).

Turbo95eg6 03-01-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan (Post 2147686)
You need clay. That's the answer you're looking for here. Pick up the Meguiars clay bar kit, wash the car, and then follow the directions on the kit. For more info look at videos on youtube of the technique.

Clay is the only safe way to remove stuck on grime from the paint - it won't mar - it won't remove paint - and it'll make your paint as smooth as a baby's bottom.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

Do not clay unless you plan to polish after, claying the car will leave marring in the clear coat.


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