Can I rant about these fuel pump replacements?
 

I've seen some members who've gone through every revision of fuel pump replacement since 2013 to try and silence the DI crickets. Somewhere posted is the price for the replacement part and it's over $1000 a pop, and it doesn't do JACK CRAP to fix the problem. I'm still on my OM fuel pump and it works fine as I can tell, though has crickets when it gets hot or perhaps bad gas.

So I'm asking, what is SOA doing throwing away money on this problem? They'll honor warranty work on something that doesn't do anything to fix the problem, but they'll deny warranty work for other problems?

Post your concerns if any. I know I'm stirring the shit but there has to be something said about this.

Well, those of us who were born and raised with engines with solid lifters, may not be as perturbed with the DI sound, because, it seems we always had at least one tappet out of adjustment. In fact, if they didn't make a little "chatter" they may be adjusted too tight (a bad thing).

OR ..... maybe we are old and just don't hear too good anymore...... http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/skep.gif


humfrz

I agree totally that people getting multiple pumps are wasting time and money.
But...eventually one of the changes (notice the word used is not "fixes") may just do the trick so somebody has to try them. The sad part is that even if a new pump eliminates the noise it will be hard to know for sure since it is so sporadic in the first place.

I had crickets too but I posted somewhere about it.

But all I did was use the Lucas fuel cleaner. I haven't heard any crickets ever since. Try that and let us know if it fixes anything.
Just drive to your local autozone or something. I just posted a link for you to reference. I don't know if you wanna spend almost 30 bucks for something like this when you can go to autozone and buy a smaller size one.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Lucas-10013-Fuel-Treatment-Gallon/dp/B000FW7V50/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1424494801&sr= 1-1"]Amazon.com: Lucas 10013 Fuel Treatment - 1 Gallon: Automotive[/ame]

I haven't tried to royal purple one but I might give that a go next.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple-11722-Max-Clean-Stabilizer/dp/B00B1VBQRS/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1424494941&sr= 1-1&keywords=royal+purple+fuel+system+cleaner"]Amazon.com: Royal Purple 11722 Max-Clean Fuel System Cleaner and Stabilizer - 20 oz. Bottle: Automotive[/ame]

We have heard all the "fixes" and although some seem to work for some people there is no magic wand!

They're not crickets. They're character. I know some WRX owners that are damn jealous of my cri..character.

DI pumps click/clatter...been that way forever. I can accept and live with that as it is just the nature of the beast. However, the squeak/cricket noise is not, and that is the sound that drives me up the wall.


Damn crickets...

I agree..... does not make sense to take the chance of the dealer messing up your car by replacing the fuel pump when the crickets will come right back. As I have posted before, I rarely hear them with the 2 cycle TCW-3 oil additive.

Far too expensive for this crap...

Staying on topic, my point is that Subaru is shelling out a thousand for each fuel pump replacement (parts cost plus labor). Are 86 owners subsidizing these costs with the purchase of their vehicle?

Yeah you can just go to your local auto-zone and get the same lucas one that I linked but in a smaller size for 10 bucks. I don't think that's very expensive, especially considering going through the dealership and having them fix it. Only for you to discover crickets again.

I was just saying give it a shot and see how it goes, it worked for me. And I hope it works everybody else. I know it shouldn't have came like that from the factory and all but I'd rather spend the 10 dollars than go through the dealership headaches.

Lucas in general is "crap."


I'd try ashless premix oil, but Lucas isn't touching my car...

I think hundreds of thousands of previous owners subsidized these costs not only for our cars but for warranty work, recalls, non-recoverable engineering overhead, blah, blah, blah across all of Toyota's and Fuji's vast product line.

Granted, it wasn't anticipated but someone would have already redesigned the pump if it was determined to be the less costly route.

So, it's an annoying noise, but just a noise? If I decide to just turn up the stereo or get a louder muffler and roll there's no mechanical problems coming?

Premix you say? I just moved out of an RX7 so I've got plenty of premix oil and the willingness to use it if it truly prevents the noise.

I am not a disciple of the premix. It did not help me. E0 even in the hottest weather instantly killed them. It's not a squeak. It's a flutter like an oboe reed, or a cricket chirp.

...or you can accept the crickets as part of the car's charm. Won't hurt anything.

only 1000$? Jeez, the dealership itemized it to be 1600$ and asked me to be grateful when they said it wasn't covered by my warranty but they wouldn't charge me (before the work they said it WAS covered).. The crickets went away for about 30 minutes.

Give it a try. It's free if you already have the oil. The worst that can happen is it doesn't work. I carry one of those small (4.5-5oz) Lucas additive bottles with 2-stroke oil in it. I use ~1/2 of a bottle (2oz) per fill up, and it works for me. The Lucas did make a difference, but didn't kill them...just dumbed them down a bit.
It doesn't seem to matter if the 2-stroke oil is TCW-3 or not. I started out using Shell TCW-3 oil, then switched to whatever oil I had on hand for my snowmobile. Ipone, Royal Purple 2C, and now Motul 710...they all work.


At the end of the day, the crickets won't hurt anything. It's just a noise (still drives me freakin' nuts though).


E0 works for me too. Some people have said it doesn't work for them. So many people in the cricket threads have said "well I tried Shell 91 and the crickets are worse than ever", but I think a lot of them missed the point...just because Shell 91 is E0 in this area doesn't mean it is E0 across the board. I wish there was a way to know if the naysayers have actually had E0 in their tank. I really thought that ethanol was the key until people running E85 started saying "crickets? what crickets?".


LOL at charm. This car has a lot of charms, crickets ain't one of 'em.

Mine went away 100% of the time as soon as I started filling up with 91/93 octane PURE gasoline with 0% ethanol. If I go back to a regular US mandated 10% ethanol the crickets return as soon as it clears the fuel line.

Every "86 friend" I have met, I tell them to try it and they all come back saying it fixed it. The problem is this gas is about $1 more a gallon. Other than killing the crickets, the tiny fuel economy/performance bump isnt enough to justify the price hike. Can we kill ethanol in the US already? Or at least bring it down to 5%, where I have found the crickets dont come out to play except on the hottest of days...

I think the crickets do truly have charm. Accepting them with a healthy sense of humour helps me bond with the car.

My pump is oem and have crickets non stop when car is warm. I'll just wait until there is a fix that works. For now I'll just try to get use to it

I LOVE MY BRZ CRICKETS.....

There, I said it.

I am going the voodoo witchdoctor fix route!
There may still be crickets afterword but I won't care.

i've noticed that after nearly 30k miles, the crickets have lost their muster and aren't as loud as they used to be.

i almost miss it