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airjonny 11-07-2014 01:34 PM

Acura Integra successor?
 
http://jalopnik.com/acura-exec-somet...-so-1655719018


2017 in Honda years is 2025 in actual time.

Reaper 11-07-2014 01:43 PM

Sport car? If I'm interpreting that correctly I believe it could mean a fwd sports car. Since fwd and sports car in SOME people's minds don't go together and they may be treading lightly. Hopefully we see an nsx, a cheap light fwd SPORTy car and the civic si.

DarkSunrise 11-07-2014 02:15 PM

I would think "sport car" would be Acura's equivalent to the Civic SI.

In other words, Integra or RSX.

Sideways&Smiling 11-07-2014 02:29 PM

Sounds like the same car as the rumored turbo coupe s2000 successor from a few months back. I'm guessing it will be an Acura and resemble neither the S2K or an Integra. It'll just be one new "affordable" sports car under the NSX......... hopefully RWD or AWD. (Boooo Fwd :( )

Then again, I have no idea what "sport car" means.

funwheeldrive 11-07-2014 03:51 PM

I won't hold my breath.

Reaper 11-07-2014 04:04 PM

I'm pretty certain if they were going to do Rwd the would have said sportS car. So I'm still thinking fwd sport car.

Dave-ROR 11-07-2014 04:10 PM

I know there will be a Honda coming around to be excited about.. I haven't heard anything from the Acura side though.


Their version of "to be excited about" may be different from mine. but here's to hoping....

strat61caster 11-07-2014 04:16 PM

Probably just removing the bloat from the ILX.

Rampage 11-07-2014 05:17 PM

I hope they bring back a car that will capture the spirit of the Integra. I have owned a lot of vehicles (close to 80) in my lifetime and I would rate my Integra GSR in the top five of my favorites. That is higher than both of my Supras and right there with my 280Z and 69 Camaro Z28. I get all nostalgic just thinking about that Integra. It was just a joy to drive.

MokSpeed 11-07-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2014243)
I won't hold my breath.

This.

It was all downhill after 2001.

funwheeldrive 11-07-2014 07:10 PM

Is there any possibility that they would bring the Civic Type R over as an Acura?

Sideways&Smiling 11-07-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 2014273)
I'm pretty certain if they were going to do Rwd the would have said sportS car. So I'm still thinking fwd sport car.

How does "sport" = FWD and "sports" = RWD? Where does that come from? never heard that before.

Sideways&Smiling 11-07-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2014282)
I know there will be a Honda coming around to be excited about..

Spill the beans.

wbradley 11-07-2014 07:52 PM

I had 2 new Integras in a row. A '96 sedan and a '99 coupe both fully loaded. Both were stick BTW. I was so satisfied I bought 2 other Acuras afterward. Only in 2008 was I put off Honda after a loaded Accord with squeaky bushings, prematurely wearing brakes and some cheap interior parts.

For a 'mild' enthusiast the Integras were great cars. And the sedan performed same as the coupe which made it feasible at a time when I was newly married and anticipating having kids.

I like the direction they are alluding to. The FR-S wouldn't have gone over for me then. A sedan version on the other hand...

My very controlling first wife was upset I didn't get a 4 dr Grand Prix! Current wife, even with our young son still gave me her blessing on the FR-S.

Honda was until this decade the sportiest Japanese brand to me.

Sasquachulator 11-07-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2014294)
Probably just removing the bloat from the ILX.

Or maybe a tarted up civic SI

AznBRZer 11-07-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 2014586)
Or maybe a tarted up civic SI

It'll be a Civic SI with the 8-speed DCT from the TLX and P-AWS. In otherwords, the 2016 ILX. :bellyroll:

I honestly don't know why everyone thinks that the new ILX have AWD because then it would cut into TLX sales. I'm still waiting for the LA Autoshow for the full announcement before I pull the trigger on a 15 TLX, 15 WRX, or 16 ILX as my second car. I just can't see myself in a CT200h as the family hauler; not enough power.

hmong337 11-07-2014 09:48 PM

Front wheel drive sports car... oxymoron

Dave-ROR 11-07-2014 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling (Post 2014529)
Spill the beans.



Eh, if you watch autoshows it's obvious enough.

funwheeldrive 11-07-2014 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2014669)
Front wheel drive sports car... oxymoron

Right...


http://jdmzipties.com/wp-content/upl...5/DSC_4185.jpg

hmong337 11-08-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2014710)

Sporty car, yes. Sports car, NO!

funwheeldrive 11-08-2014 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2014798)
Sporty car, yes. Sports car, NO!

Ask 100 people what a sports car is and you'll get 100 different answers.

hmong337 11-08-2014 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2014827)
Ask 100 people what a sports car is and you'll get 100 different answers.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Integra R. The braking feel is pretty awesome and I'm a HUGE fan of Honda motors! I love Honda Vtec's, it's just too bad they literally put all of them in the wrong spot :thumbdown:

The Del Sol should've been a mid-engine like the original concept!

As for the integra, here is my cousin's old dc2r with my mr2 that he sold for an awd bimmer 3 series.

Sporty car, not a sports car. Trust me on this...
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ps7408d4e8.jpg

Rampage 11-08-2014 10:53 AM

I would not even bother to argue the semantics but I can say that I have seen a few Integras slap the shit out of some "sports" cars both on and off the track.

hmong337 11-08-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 2014989)
I would not even bother to argue the semantics but I can say that I have seen a few Integras slap the shit out of some "sports" cars both on and off the track.

Me too.

But platform vs platform, please don't tell me fwd is a sports car. There is a reason why there is no such thing as a fwd Ferrari, Lamborghini, or high end sports car.

s2d4 11-08-2014 12:37 PM

Won't plow the snow like a tank, definitely not a sports car.

strat61caster 11-08-2014 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2014859)
Sporty car, not a sports car. Trust me on this...

No.

wbradley 11-08-2014 01:49 PM

Agreed by definition a true sports car is RWD.

However it has been proven some very good performance cars have been done FWD.

Tcoat 11-08-2014 02:33 PM

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sports%20car


Sure people can define words as what ever they want but my saying a seat strapped to an aardvark is a "sports car" does not make it so.


If you take Webster's as an authority on definitions then not only does the location of the drive not matter the Twins barely qualify as "sports cars"

Captain Caveman 11-08-2014 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2015178)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sports%20car


Sure people can define words as what ever they want but my saying a seat strapped to an aardvark is a "sports car" does not make it so.


If you take Webster's as an authority on definitions then not only does the location of the drive not matter the Twins barely qualify as "sports cars"

I'll put my money on pony car

http://i.word.com/idictionary/pony%20car


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Tcoat 11-08-2014 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Caveman (Post 2015206)
I'll put my money on pony car

http://i.word.com/idictionary/pony%20car


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The great part would be that the Pony Car crowd would also say they have to be RWD!

rice_classic 11-08-2014 03:38 PM

This isn't a thread about semantics or people with tiny ****s who struggle to find meaning in life..

No, this thread is about Acura long standing marketing strategy called:
VAPORWARE!

I think Mazda should change their motto to: "Providing you all the cool shit Honda only promises."

strat61caster 11-08-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2015178)
If you take Webster's as an authority on definitions then not only does the location of the drive not matter the Twins barely qualify as "sports cars"

Webster's is not a good source as anyone can publish a book and call it 'Webster's dictionary'

Oxford English Dictionary is where it's at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diction...h_Dictionaries

Quote:

sports car n. a low-built car designed for performance at high speeds, often having a roof that can be folded back.
http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/187476...r#eid127592832

Point remains the same, just calling out that Webster's is not nearly as reliable or universally accepted as OED.

Tcoat 11-08-2014 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2015278)
Webster's is not a good source as anyone can publish a book and call it 'Webster's dictionary'

Oxford English Dictionary is where it's at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diction...h_Dictionaries



http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/187476...r#eid127592832

Point remains the same, just calling out that Webster's is not nearly as reliable or universally accepted as OED.

WOW Strat first time I have ever been told I was using the wrong dictionary!
And then citing Wikipedea as an authority on anything.


Still makes the point that to be defined as a "sports car" it does not have to be RWD.

Rampage 11-08-2014 08:01 PM

Grassroots Motorsports has an article in the November issue which defines what a sports car is. It is written by the designer of the original Miata. Interestingly, there are pictures of cars in the article that do not strictly meet his criteria so he admits that there are exceptions and that the term "sports car" is hotly debated.

I personally do not care what you call it. The Integra was one of the best handling and fun to drive FWD cars ever made and its performance was on par with anything in its class which includes RWD models. Plus it was affordable and practical. Honda/Acura could do worse than try to repeat that magic.

strat61caster 11-08-2014 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2015351)
WOW Strat first time I have ever been told I was using the wrong dictionary!
And then citing Wikipedea as an authority on anything.


Still makes the point that to be defined as a "sports car" it does not have to be RWD.

When discussing things that can't be proven with formula or various firsthand accounts yes I go to the largest conglomeration of knowledge we have available. Here's another one but I'd call it less credible than wiki, never studied the subject only talked about it with people who I trust know more than me.

http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/websterdict07.htm

ohnoitsthefuzz 11-23-2014 07:20 AM

This thread is tainted with the smell of asparagus and ammonia from this pissing match! :barf:

funwheeldrive 11-23-2014 08:44 AM

I guess it doesn't really matter since Acura won't revamp the Integra anyways.


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