Clueless on lug nuts
 

I just got new wheels recently (17x8 +35 TSW Nurburgring) and I'm unsure if I should use the OEM nuts or get aftermarket? One of my friends had their lug nuts seize to the studs and screwed things up so I want to avoid any trouble.

my only advice would be not to buy cheap after market tuner lugs from ebay.
I bought some muteki branded ones from ebay and after taking them on and off a few times I could see metal shavings fall off and the paint on the nuts were coming off too.

Basically, you get what you pay for

Do some research on steel versus duraluminium or whatever the fancy ones are called. i've heard stories of aluminium breaking, whereas steel is stronger. You will need aftermarket lugs for aftermarket wheels, i think because it needs to have an acorn/tapered style seat? Someone will actual knowledge please chime in.

Factory lugs are the typical aftermarket tapered seat. That's only half of the equation though because you still need clearance around the nut and that depends on the wheel.

Not sure if this helps but, I have the stock lug nuts on mine, TSW Interlagos 17x8 +35 and they work.

Thanks for all the replies. I think I should be fine as tyrantcf has a similar wheel

As long as the seat is the same, there's enough clearance int he lughole, and there's enough thread engagement, you'll be fine with whatever lugnut you want to use.

Use anti-seize if you're worried about the lugnuts corroding onto the lugs. Aluminum is obviously less durable than steel, but it's a trade-off for weight reduction.

Problem w/ "tuner" lugs is the keys required for their use. You'll need a tool that will provide direct "turning" force without any angular force so you don't break the keys. Thus means using a X shaped wrench as opposed to the stock L looking thing. Using a tq wrench becomes a problem w/ the keys as well for the same reason. (experience w/ crappy Muteki keys breaking).

My Muteki lugs (SR48) just use a normal 17mm socket. The set includes a thin walled socket just in case you need it for clearance on the wheel, but a normal socket fits fine for me with RPF1's.

When running new wheels it is best to also run a set of aftermarket lugs, however as stated above, the stock lugs do offer the proper seat and can be used in conjunction with some aftermarket applications. After market lugs do come in many options to full-fill you needs and desires. The thread pitch needed for our lugs is M12x1.25. Also keep in mind if you decide to run new lugs with your new wheels, it is HIGHLY recommended that you re-torque the NEW lugs after 50 miles to ensure that they are seated properly, new lugs used with new wheels have been know to come loose.

Honda's use a ball seat, but these cars are the same as aftermarket wheels (and most cars out there).


OP: You can use your OEM lugs. Re-torque as Vivid suggested as the paint on the wheel seat will come off which is what causes the loose lugnuts after a bit on new wheels.

Kics R40 on everything :P

I agree with above post. Project kics R40. They are expensive, but I think we'll worth it. Protect your expensive wheels, and your life at the same time.

If you choose to go aftermarket, here's a simple way to go: http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...roducts_id=475

After having both OEM and aftermarket lugs swell up on me, I will only use McGard solid 1 piece lug nuts. I got a set of 20 for like $40 bucks shipped when they were doing a 10% sale over the summer.

Similar question I posted on another thread. Would the OEM lugs work with steel rims for the wintertime? It seems as though the tapering would fit, but im not entirely sure. I would really appreciate someone more knowledgeable on the subject to chime in.

I had a whole set of D1 spec lug nut got from ebay for $20 2 years ago.. and it still works like charm. not thing wrong and no worry about kids steal the lug nut on the street.

yes.

-alex

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TSW and most aftermarket wheels include new lugnuts btw, usually higher quality than the oem ones and meant to fit the wheels.

How do people rate McGard lug nuts?

They work just fine.


I have a few sets of BRZ fitment lugnuts somewhere, I should dump them here for cheap. Just normal closed chrome whatever random cheap tire rack supplied stuff.


And some Kics I need to sell soon.. pre car sale... or maybe post car sale.

I bought some mcguard nuts for my first set of enkeis. They seemed to fit fine.

I got some enkeis from tire rack and the lugs they sent me seemed to fit way better. they thread on by hand so easy where the mcguard have a slight resistance.

I just used the ones tirerack sent me now.

Also tirerack told me the ones they sent will work OEM and Enkei but the OEM lugs will not work with enkei.

I can see this as the nuts they sent me are much "deeper".

ANyway, conclusion, find out what lugs tire rack uses they are good :)

Singular data point. I ran the Tire Rack lug nuts that came with my RPF1s, and they appeared to be equivalent or better than stock. After 1.5 yrs of monthly autocross and winter tire swapping, they have stripped a few studs (1 spinning freely, and 3 with threads sheared off).

While it's entirely possible that it was technician error (read: shops with impact wrenches set to kill)... just be vigilant about inspecting and cleaning them. Been maintaining our family's cars for 15+ years now without similar issues.

I've never seen a lug nut strip that wasn't installed wrong (i.e. some monkey with an impact gun)

yeah just make sure to hand tighten with fingers for first few turns to make sure it is indeed on properly then go wild with whatever tool of your choice upto the torque spec.
Here is my recommendation for lug nuts at an affordable price:
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Clueless on lug nuts
 

My stock lugs seem to be corroding on the inside. White stuff. Is that good? Also a comment on stock lugs. They are socket shaped and then the seat it shaved out of it. So the seat has edges that look like it with be tough on the finish of the wheels. That worries me. Rays has W1712125B $100-150 set that has one special lock per wheel. Look like good quality. Any thoughts?Attachment 122851

Rays are good but expensive. Good thread for a list of good lug nuts. Not sure if you really care about weight, but it does list all the good lug nuts you can get for our cars.

I think others have done a good job of answering your question. That being said - I would make sure you keep five of your OEM lug nuts in a little plastic bag in your glove box, or wherever - you will need them for the (OEM) spare tire if you should have to utilize it.