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Hawaiian 06-01-2012 12:17 PM

Early problems - speaker rasp and long turnover
 
So far I noticed a rasp coming from a front/left dash speaker.

Also, Has anyone else noticed on occasion that it will take a long time to turn over? I've had it take as long as 6 seconds to start.

civicdrivr 06-01-2012 08:00 PM

Only once did it give me trouble turning over, and that was after I stalled it (damn soft clutch pedal with zero feedback).

No noise from the speakers though.

YukiHachiRoku 06-01-2012 08:03 PM

The front left speaker on the dash, the plastic part of the speaker holes will pop out of alignment from the dash, it's really annoying. I press it back down, but it keeps popping back out, any suggestions? Anyone else having this problem?

civicdrivr 06-01-2012 08:10 PM

Ill double check mine tonight, but I dont remember having that.

The only interior part I had to "fix" was the e-brake boot. It wasn't completely snapped into place when I got the car.

4U-GSE 06-01-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 236077)
(damn soft clutch pedal with zero feedback).

Oh man thanks for saying that! I thought I was the only one. I stalled the car on my test drive today. I couldn't pin point where the clutch engaged. No feedback from the clutch. Mind you this is coming from someone who has a ACT racing clutch and 7.5 lb fly wheel on his current car and hasn't stalled that car in couple years.

At least my FRS is finally here and I'm picking it up tomorrow!

Laika 06-01-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku (Post 236083)
The front left speaker on the dash, the plastic part of the speaker holes will pop out of alignment from the dash, it's really annoying. I press it back down, but it keeps popping back out, any suggestions? Anyone else having this problem?

I have this problem on the passenger side dashboard speaker grill. Take it to the dealership, mines swapping it out under warranty. They said it's an entire 15 minutes of work.

IceCreamMan 06-01-2012 08:33 PM

Stalled mine twice the first time I got in it. Very soft clutch compared to what I'm used to. No problems other than wire brackets popping out of the trunk frame when they get hit.

civicdrivr 06-01-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 4U-GSE (Post 236134)
Oh man thanks for saying that! I thought I was the only one. I stalled the car on my test drive today. I couldn't pin point where the clutch engaged. No feedback from the clutch. Mind you this is coming from someone who has a ACT racing clutch and 7.5 lb fly wheel on his current car and hasn't stalled that car in couple years.

At least my FRS is finally here and I'm picking it up tomorrow!

Same here, I've been stepping on a CM FX300 with an 11lb flywheel for 3 years or so. I can't wait to upgrade the clutch in my FR-S to something with a bit of feedback.

Congrats btw!

blu_ 06-01-2012 08:38 PM

The only rattle I thought I had turned out to be the rear seat back being open. Braked hard and it came open.

burt 06-01-2012 08:48 PM

When I test drove the FR-S, it took at least 3 cranks to turnover.

Lonewolf 06-01-2012 09:34 PM

The hard start/multiple cranks issue sounds like what some people dealt with in the 8th gen Civic.

It turns out that the fuel system needed to be "primed" if the car had been sitting in very cold weather or for several days without being started. The "priming" procedure consisted of turning the ignition to "ACC" while the fuel gauge did a quick sweep and supposedly pressurized the fuel system, at that point you could start without issue every time.

Most people thought the hard start issue was a problem with the battery needing higher cold cranking amps, but it wasn't the case.

Indestruct 06-01-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IceCreamMan (Post 236141)
Stalled mine twice the first time I got in it. Very soft clutch compared to what I'm used to. No problems other than wire brackets popping out of the trunk frame when they get hit.

I stalled a couple times too! The engine is so quiet and I can't feel anything from the clutch. I never stalled on my S2k either :(. Also I had to adjust my heel-toe shifting and rev matching, when I jab at the pedal the rpm's don't jump as fast as I'm used to... feel like a complete shifting noob :(

SF-FRS 07-11-2012 02:11 AM

I got an alignment issue....the car is pulling right

civicdrivr 07-11-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SF-FRS (Post 307917)
I got an alignment issue....the car is pulling right

Bring it back to the dealer.

_hollywood 07-11-2012 05:44 AM

My drivers side front speaker pops out after pushing it down...slowly works it way back out...clutch is fine to me, but i drive easy 99% of the time..


I always wait about 5 seconds after turning the key to the on position...its an old habit from my diesel truck days..zero starting problems..maybe you guys should just slow down wait 5 seconds then start it....


Most people jump in fire it up and take off in less than 5 seconds, thats hard on a car so just take a few seconds, it has always worked for me.

450hp/tonne 07-11-2012 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by _hollywood (Post 308199)
My drivers side front speaker pops out after pushing it down...slowly works it way back out...

Keep in touch with your dealer, as I'm sure they will soon have a technical bulletin about how to stop it from popping out.

civicdrivr 07-11-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _hollywood (Post 308199)
I always wait about 5 seconds after turning the key to the on position...its an old habit from my diesel truck days..zero starting problems..maybe you guys should just slow down wait 5 seconds then start it....

I always wait for the pump to prime before cranking it over. It makes starting much easier IMO.

450hp/tonne 07-12-2012 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 309333)
I always wait for the pump to prime before cranking it over. It makes starting much easier IMO.

The fuel line will maintain good pressure for around an hour. Even overnight the fuel pressure will be around 30% of normal operating pressure.

Oh, it only takes less than a quarter of a second to get to operating pressure ...

civicdrivr 07-12-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 450hp/tonne (Post 310491)
The fuel line will maintain good pressure for around an hour. Even overnight the fuel pressure will be around 30% of normal operating pressure.

Oh, it only takes less than a quarter of a second to get to operating pressure ...

Its a hard habit to break. Id rather waste the three seconds waiting for hit to stop priming then start right away.

Chewie4299 07-12-2012 10:52 AM

I have my shift light set near red line. I turn the key to on, wait for the tach sweep to finish, then start.

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2pt5RS 07-12-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku (Post 236083)
The front left speaker on the dash, the plastic part of the speaker holes will pop out of alignment from the dash, it's really annoying. I press it back down, but it keeps popping back out, any suggestions? Anyone else having this problem?

suggestion: take it to the dealer.

Synack 07-12-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku (Post 236083)
The front left speaker on the dash, the plastic part of the speaker holes will pop out of alignment from the dash, it's really annoying. I press it back down, but it keeps popping back out, any suggestions? Anyone else having this problem?

Super glue

Memphis 07-12-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 310828)
Super glue

No no duct tape works much better. The chrome duct tape would look amazing on it. :)

Z0rr0 07-12-2012 12:40 PM

My door panels rattle, with any bass in a song at all, even at a reasonable level.
It's very annoying.

car's idle dips down to 400 or so, and makes a strange noise, from time to time.

YukiHachiRoku 07-13-2012 05:43 PM

Took it to the dealer, after this hapenning twice, they said they were going to put different clips on it. They drove it 50 miles, my dad picked it up and it seemed fine, (the first time he picked it up the grille popped out 5 mins going down the street.

He brought it right back and told them to replace the whole dash and just walked away lol... Then I talked with the tech again, my dad picked it up again and drove it for awhile to make sure it doesn't pop out again. (since I am out of town as usual)....

So they gave me a carwash, and full tank of gas. I'll let you know when I get home and rail on my car again in a few weeks to tell you if the mofo'n grille pops out again, if it does for the 3rd time, they said I will get a new dashboard... This new clip better work lol... cuz screw duct tape and superglue....

sierra 07-13-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 309333)
I always wait for the pump to prime before cranking it over. It makes starting much easier IMO.

The GTS version here has push button start and the fuel pump primes before it starts, you have no choice.
That suggests that letting it prime for a couple of secs is a good thing.

Razz 07-13-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku (Post 236083)
The front left speaker on the dash, the plastic part of the speaker holes will pop out of alignment from the dash, it's really annoying. I press it back down, but it keeps popping back out, any suggestions? Anyone else having this problem?

Either take it back to dealer to get a new cover or use one drop of clear silicone.

Silicone will keep the cover in place and still allow for dis-assembly to upgrade the speakers.

YukiHachiRoku 07-14-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Razz (Post 314413)
Either take it back to dealer to get a new cover or use one drop of clear silicone.

Silicone will keep the cover in place and still allow for dis-assembly to upgrade the speakers.

Dealer has been visited, need more time to see if it pops back out though.
:happy0180:

Ebay 07-14-2012 03:07 AM

No problem starting, did stall it once at stop light, car doesn't like slow take off at low rpm. Front left speaker seems to rattle, not sure why? Doesn't appear to be anything visibly wrong with it.

Laika 07-14-2012 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku (Post 236083)
The front left speaker on the dash, the plastic part of the speaker holes will pop out of alignment from the dash, it's really annoying. I press it back down, but it keeps popping back out, any suggestions? Anyone else having this problem?


I realized I never made a thread to mention this when I should have, this problem is due to the speakers wiring harness pushing the grill up. Stuff the harness deep in there and you'll be fine. The dealer/SOA figured out this fix for me, 3 weeks now and it's been fine.

Edit: I originally had my speaker grill replaced because they thought it was warped. The grill/clips are NOT the root cause.

450hp/tonne 07-14-2012 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Laika (Post 314682)
this problem is due to the speakers wiring harness pushing the grill up. Stuff the harness deep in there and you'll be fine.

Glad to hear of a dealer who found the actual cause! I'm sure there will be an official instruction to dealers soon (if not already).

Adheadive and tape will not fix the cause of the problem, either would replacing the entire dash (expect more problems from that than what you have now). Keep in touch with your dealer and keep asking if there is an official fix.

andy19804 07-26-2012 07:47 PM

My passenger side dash grill popped up. After 2nd visit to dealer they ordered new one that was installed last night. So far so good.

Laika 07-26-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by andy19804 (Post 340775)
My passenger side dash grill popped up. After 2nd visit to dealer they ordered new one that was installed last night. So far so good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 314682)
I realized I never made a thread to mention this when I should have, this problem is due to the speakers wiring harness pushing the grill up. Stuff the harness deep in there and you'll be fine. The dealer/SOA figured out this fix for me, 3 weeks now and it's been fine.

Edit: I originally had my speaker grill replaced because they thought it was warped. The grill/clips are NOT the root cause.


If you're wondering, yes my speaker grill is fine still. The grill is NOT defective. It's simply the gubbins under the grill.

2013BRZ 08-17-2012 01:56 AM

Not true
 
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Originally Posted by sierra (Post 314402)
The GTS version here has push button start and the fuel pump primes before it starts, you have no choice.
That suggests that letting it prime for a couple of secs is a good thing.

Not true. On the Limited model equipped with push button start, you can turn on accessories and theoretically prime the pump by pushing the button once ore twice before actually depressing the clutch to start it. Psh, "GTS version"...

proficience 08-19-2012 10:15 AM

I had 1 long turnover (5secs) once when I had about 300kms on the clock. Never since! Im on 1,000km now. Seemed like a once off

louis 04-25-2013 04:43 PM

Any idea what is causing it?

strat61caster 04-25-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by louis (Post 891084)
Any idea what is causing it?

What's it? The speaker "rasp" or "rattle" is parts not fitting together well enough and vibrating, happens in every car.

The "hard start" is likely this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=11

Hawaiian 04-28-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 891362)
What's it? The speaker "rasp" or "rattle" is parts not fitting together well enough and vibrating, happens in every car.

The "hard start" is likely this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=11

Well, The rasp is more of a static noise than a vibration noise. It's almost impossible for me to replicate other than the fact it only happens when I have a device plugged into the USB port, and it only occurs when i drive. I'm guessing it's a bad wire that's causing feedback somewhere.

Fenrir 04-30-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 896967)
Well, The rasp is more of a static noise than a vibration noise. It's almost impossible for me to replicate other than the fact it only happens when I have a device plugged into the USB port, and it only occurs when i drive. I'm guessing it's a bad wire that's causing feedback somewhere.

Look up ground loop isolators. That should solve your problem. They're cheap and easy to install.

Link here for example. Don't get one from there, though, those are pretty overpriced. Should give you an idea what to look for though with a good explanation of who/what/why. I'd recommend one for any car audio application.

Hawaiian 04-30-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenrir (Post 902321)
Look up ground loop isolators. That should solve your problem. They're cheap and easy to install.

Link here for example. Don't get one from there, though, those are pretty overpriced. Should give you an idea what to look for though with a good explanation of who/what/why. I'd recommend one for any car audio application.

Thanks, although that should be a warranty thing since it's the factory audio.


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