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Fastbrew 07-28-2014 04:28 PM

Electronic blind spot indicator - mirrors
 
So - I have rented a car while my BRZ is being tuned.

Hertz had a Buick Verano available so I grabbed it.

Not my cup of tea in an auto, however - I LOVE the mirror indicator for the blind spot.

On the outside of the mirror glass, there is a little orange indicator that lights up when someone is in your blindspot(s). It worked perfectly.

Has anyone tried adding this to their twin?

I know about convex mirrors - I am interested in this setup. I know there is no substitute for looking - however - even after looking around this extra little check is pretty awesome.

STV3 07-28-2014 04:42 PM

Yeah going to be more money and work then its worth. Just get a set of rexspeed mirrors and call it day.

uEih 07-28-2014 04:44 PM

Do those need sensors somewhere installed? Not sure how those works and I've never been in a car with one but I find it the BRZ doesn't have blindspots in the mirrors, once a car is out of the sight of my mirror I could already see them on the side. I still check blindspots anyways in case a car on the other lane is trying to change into the same lane I'm changing into, those annoy me as I've had a close call when someone decided to change lanes quickly without signaling when I was already halfway through the lane change.

sklimo 07-28-2014 04:45 PM

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yeah i don't trust those. I can see in most cars/trucks equipped with those sensors that they don't register the twin until were almost side by side. I've had to avoid nearly being side swiped 2 times already in the 3 months from vehicles with said blind spot indicators.



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gramicci101 07-28-2014 04:52 PM

Adjust your mirrors properly and you won't need them.

From your driving position you shouldn't be able to see the sides of the car.
Lean your head left until it touches the window. Turn the left mirror out until you can barely see the side of the car.
Lean your head right until it's at about the middle of the vehicle. Turn the right mirror out until you can just barely see the side of the car.
Make minor adjustments as necessary.

Now when a vehicle leaves the edge of your rearview mirror, you're picking it up in your side mirror. And when it leaves the side mirror, you can see it with a cursory head check. If there's a car on your back corner, it will be squarely in your side mirror.

sklimo 07-28-2014 05:00 PM

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seriously, it wouldn't have been a blind spot IF YOU PROPERLY ADJUSTED YOUR MIRRORS, USED THEM AND NOT BLINDLY TRUST A STUPID GIZMO IN YOUR CAR.

but fuck me, right in the arse.

i'm waiting for the news story where someone says "but my blind spot indicator didn't tell me that car/motorcycle was there, lets sue "insert car manufacturer here".



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Poodles 07-28-2014 11:46 PM

You guys beat me to the whole adjusting your mirrors correctly :)


Sadly, it seems it's not the norm, and because of this some cars from the factory won't adjust out that far.

Turbo95eg6 07-29-2014 12:00 AM

Trade your car for a Buick OP.

Fastbrew 07-29-2014 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 1870401)
Trade your car for a Buick OP.

Hell no! The only reason I picked it up was because my BRZ is getting an AVO and a tune right now and I wanted something really lame so that the experience of getting back in the BRZ later this week is amplified.

PS - I found some Toyota parts to accomplish this task so I might mess with this later.

Ganthrithor 07-29-2014 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sklimo (Post 1869712)

This.

An easy way to set your mirrors up is to have a friend walk from side to side behind your car. You want the mirrors set up so that as the person is leaving one mirror they're entering another.

Fastbrew 07-29-2014 02:21 AM

I have already configured my mirrors in that fashion.

I started this thread to talk about electronic blind spot indicators and the tech behind it. If I wanted to talk to people about mirror adjustments, I would have made a thread called "How do I adjust my mirrors" - alas - the title is "Electronic Blind Spot Indicators - mirrors" So, my bad for putting mirrors in the title and confusing people. I meant it as the location for the indicator.

Fastbrew 07-29-2014 03:08 AM

This looks like a possibility. Gosher's - http://www.goshers.com/blind-spot-de...ds3016-10.html

Here is some installer showing it off
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6joY5uMIA9k"]Goshers Blind Spot Detection System 2012 Toyota Prius - YouTube[/ame]

My problem is that I would have a hard time looking at those little circles cut into the vehicle. Even if it was paint matched.

I guess you can get away with just the rear sensors. They sell it in that config.

I would be more apt to opt for a side skirt solution if I wanted to do this.

krayzie 07-29-2014 03:37 AM

Even adjusting the stock mirror properly and using a blind spot indicator are no match for these:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/images/misc/mir/vw36.jpg

The one single thing I miss from driving German cars, I can change lanes on the driver side so fucking fast with no need to shoulder check.

Blind spot indicator? Cuz Volvo!

Fastbrew 07-29-2014 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1870651)
Even adjusting the stock mirror properly and using a blind spot indicator are no match for these:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/images/misc/mir/vw36.jpg

The one single thing I miss from driving German cars, I can change lanes on the driver side so fucking fast with no need to shoulder check.

What's that off of? That slays for visibility. I do not like the stock mirrors and Rexspeed seems to be the goto - however - that mirror makes it look silly.

krayzie 07-29-2014 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastbrew (Post 1870662)
What's that off of? That slays for visibility. I do not like the stock mirrors and Rexspeed seems to be the goto - however - that mirror makes it look silly.

I found that pic off this page you can read the explanation:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/bl...a5-jetta-golf/

I used to have this for my Golf GTI, it's what German cars come stock from the factory in Europe / RoW. It allows you to change lanes to the driver side amazingly fast without the need to shoulder check (imagine merging into the fast lane on the Autobahn with cars going 200km/h+). The passenger side mirror is already convex (some people buy the UK market driver side mirror to put on the right side, I didn't).

Here in Canada, the only Japanese car I've seen that is equipped with this stock is the new Honda CRV, and Saab used to come with this here as well. The driver side mirror on the new Fords seems ghetto to me (they use the top left corner like those stick-ons).

The electronic blind spot indicator is not all that effective as I've almost gotten hit by SUVs equipped with this system a few times already (I had to honk at them hard).

Those Rexpeeds look interesting, but the blue tint (like old Bimmers) may get a little hard to see during heavy rain, and there's no dotted warning line to indicate the blind spot area.

go2brz 07-30-2014 02:29 AM

My wife has a new 2015 Audi A3 with side assist lights in the mirror housing. I find it to be a nice helpful addition, but I have to agree that if you adjust your mirrors on the BRZ properly further out so that you don't see any of the side of the car, the blind spot is revealed quite well. Then adding a backup camera for while in revese completes the entire big picture of overcoming the blind spots in this car.

Fastbrew 07-30-2014 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by go2brz (Post 1872740)
My wife has a new 2015 Audi A3 with side assist lights in the mirror housing. I find it to be a nice helpful addition, but I have to agree that if you adjust your mirrors on the BRZ properly further out so that you don't see any of the side of the car, the blind spot is revealed quite well. Then adding a backup camera for while in revese completes the entire big picture of overcoming the blind spots in this car.

Yeah I get that. Here is my thinking - though. If I mount the leds close to my dash and where I am looking out the window, it may warn me before I even look out the mirror keeping my eyes forward and letting me know a bit more about what to expect when I go to the mirrors.

Anyway - I am in the tech biz and I like tech so these appeal to me as an additional visual aid. That said - I don't like my rear view mirror and am thinking of getting a rimless JDM model I have been looking at. So - don't expect logic in my taste.

go2brz 07-30-2014 04:36 AM

Whatever works for you is what's important. It was just a comment. I have no set notions on what is right or logical for anybody else but me.......


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