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Raven604 07-16-2014 09:54 AM

Metal shavings in oil after change.
 
So last hight I noticed some grain of sand sized metal shavings in my oil after I changed it. Changed it after 6.5kkm, mobile 1 afe. Normal? Probably 10 or so grains of metal total. Pretty sure I heard my car knock once extremely loud last week. It's never happened before.

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sluflyer06 07-16-2014 10:09 AM

Save any of the oil for a analysis?

AJPG 07-16-2014 10:17 AM

That doesn't sound right.
Take an oil sample and if you could use other car until find out were the particulate came from.
Any modifications? FI?
Check compression and pay attention to any different or new sound(noise).
Keep post.

Dezoris 07-16-2014 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sluflyer06 (Post 1848984)
Save any of the oil for a analysis?

Yep, best way to get answer.

Raven604 07-16-2014 01:25 PM

I have the oil still. Transfered from my new plastic oil pan to the new oils 4.4l empty jug. Is it still good for analysis? I've never sent an oil sample out before. The engine sounds and runs fine.

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Raven604 07-16-2014 01:25 PM

Still completely stock other then an air filter, shift Springs, tranny moubt and shifter bushing.

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Raven604 07-16-2014 01:27 PM

Any help with sending oil samples out would help. Thanks.

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TM 07-16-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven604 (Post 1849377)
Any help with sending oil samples out would help. Thanks.

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You can request a free test kit from BlackStone: http://www.blackstone-labs.com/free-test-kits.php

Put your oil in the kit when you receive it and then send it back to them for analysis. I think it's around $25?

Not sure of a quicker method.

eric6 07-16-2014 01:33 PM

Blackstone laboratories is where to send oil for analysis.

However, if the sizes are as large as you state, I'm not sure an oil analysis will do much. They read parts in PPM, large parts are brushed aside for this testing. Post up some photos, that may be able to help us narrow down where the metal came from.

TM 07-16-2014 01:37 PM

Btw, is this your first oil change? Metal shavings are common during the break-in period.

Dezoris 07-16-2014 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven604 (Post 1849377)
Any help with sending oil samples out would help. Thanks.

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As mentioned go to Blackstones website. Request sample kit, you should have it within a week or so.

For now pour about 1 - 2 cups of oil out of your jug into a clean glass and cover it with plastic wrap until you get the collection container from Blackstone.

They will remove chunks for analysis but will still tell you what metals are in large quantities. Help you figure out if it's bearings etc.

Raven604 07-16-2014 02:12 PM

I have 32,000km on the engine but this was the first change I did myself. I didn't clean out the oil pan with the shavings still in it. I'll post pics when I get home from work.

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Raven604 07-16-2014 09:31 PM

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...pstwlwsoih.jpg

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sluflyer06 07-17-2014 09:06 AM

was your oil pan clean before you drained it? you didn't "rinse" anythign off the bottom of your pan and into the container did you?

Raven604 07-17-2014 09:22 AM

Yes the pan was brand new and no I did not rinse. Eek
.. 4km left on warranty might have to buy the extended just in case

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sluflyer06 07-17-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven604 (Post 1851023)
Yes the pan was brand new and no I did not rinse. Eek
.. 4km left on warranty might have to buy the extended just in case

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In the USA you can always cancel the extended at any time and get a prorated refund, so if you can swing it and you feel you may need it, at least the risk would be low. (if you can get a refund on it)

bluesubie 07-17-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by eric6 (Post 1849385)
Blackstone laboratories is where to send oil for analysis.

However, if the sizes are as large as you state, I'm not sure an oil analysis will do much. They read parts in PPM, large parts are brushed aside for this testing. Post up some photos, that may be able to help us narrow down where the metal came from.

Yep, the limit on a Blackstone spectral exam is a particle size of about 5 microns. A uoa might pick up something, but people have had excellent uoa's with a piston sticking out the side of their engine. :confused0068:It's hit or miss.

sluflyer06 07-17-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedyJay (Post 1851361)
I noticed kind of the same thing in my first oil and in my wifes new car when I did the oil change. I wouldn't worry about it to much, just a new engine IMO.

You could at least thread the few posts in this thread, there is 32,000km on this motor. (#12)

CBR600RR 07-17-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven604 (Post 1851023)
Yes the pan was brand new and no I did not rinse. Eek
.. 4km left on warranty might have to buy the extended just in case

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You said you are at 32,000km. the manufacturers comprehensive warranty is good until 60,000 or three years, which ever comes first.

sluflyer06 07-17-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR600RR (Post 1851434)
You said you are at 32,000km. the manufacturers comprehensive warranty is good until 60,000 or three years, which ever comes first.

Good call. Nothing like warranty.

Raven604 07-17-2014 01:41 PM

Ahhh yeah. Bumper to bumper was 3 yr/36000 power train is 60k. right in, time to thrash'er

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surcy 08-10-2014 10:18 AM

As info:


My first oil change was at 2000 miles. I cut the filter apart and found no metal particles, etc.

AJPG 08-10-2014 11:01 AM

If the things that are in the oil pan are metal you could forget about the oil analysis!
That engine could be save (if continue running without additional noises and turning) but it have to be open for inspection.

Astroboy 09-10-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven604 (Post 1851577)
Ahhh yeah. Bumper to bumper was 3 yr/36000 power train is 60k. right in, time to thrash'er

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I know this is an old thread, but do you have any updates. Was the engine good, did you have to rebuild it? Etc

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