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-   -   Swift's at it again - Wilwood 14" 6-Pot BBK for WRX - Fit to BRZ (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63636)

swift996 04-17-2014 02:16 PM

Swift's at it again - Wilwood 14" 6-Pot BBK for WRX - Fit to BRZ
 
You may have seen my initial Wilwood BBK job here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32594

Where I fitted a 4-Pot Wilwood kit to the BRZ. It has worked great, absolute great bang for the buck. Probably the best idea for autocross and great for street/HPDE use.

Anyways, I found a steal on a set of gently used Wilwood brakes for the 08+ WRX. I should have time to try the install next weekend. I'm running 18s and it appears everything will bolt right up. More to follow...

6-Piston Calipers
355mm x 32mm rotors

Details from the Wilwood Site: (unfortunately they are the narrow-lites which is a smaller pad area versus the other kit)
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...%2c+except+STI

Fitted on 2011 WRX:
http://i.imgur.com/tmjgrF5.png

Kami Speed 04-17-2014 02:34 PM

Beautiful! Just fits inside of those wheels. mmmmmm

ModBargains 04-17-2014 02:44 PM

Looks great!

swift996 04-17-2014 02:46 PM

I initially thought I bought the regular BBK 14" which has a 34% larger pad area (relative to the narrow-lite), which is why I got so excited. Turns out this is the same caliper Wilwood uses on the BRZ kit but with a 14" rotor instead of the 12.9" and 32mm width versus 28mm.

CSG David 04-17-2014 02:59 PM

Finally! That's going to be a better kit than the original one. :)

swift996 04-17-2014 03:20 PM

It uses the exact same bracket as the BRZ kit, it's going to come down to will it clear my wheel! Stay tuned!

OrbitalEllipses 04-17-2014 05:23 PM

On today's episode of "Will it clear?!"...

swift996 04-22-2014 11:03 AM

Question for those who have done similar conversions. Instead of swapping the bleeder screws can I just swap the calipers? For example use the driver's side on the passenger side? That would keep the outer caliper and bleeder screw in the same position.

http://i.imgur.com/srjmdPB.png

Racecomp Engineering 04-22-2014 11:45 AM

Not if the pistons are differentially bored.

- Andy

swift996 04-22-2014 01:45 PM

Yup, given the orientation of the pistons, it looks like I will need to swap the bleeder screw. What's the process, just unscrew both and swap? I assume both inner and outer?

http://i.imgur.com/e2NZy1m.png

OrbitalEllipses 04-22-2014 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 1689420)
Not if the pistons are differentially bored.

- Andy

They are.

Racecomp Engineering 04-22-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1689700)
They are.

I had a feeling. :)

- andy

swift996 04-28-2014 10:56 AM

I plan to test fit this evening. Sorry for the dirty pics, I didn't have time to clean them up:

http://i.imgur.com/ThtD6Dv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tagAKFb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/liulSDD.jpg

swift996 04-28-2014 10:23 PM

....and they clear! Now to find time to install them:

http://i.imgur.com/SLiYB1Q.png

http://i.imgur.com/2Vt657f.png

swift996 05-02-2014 11:47 AM

I'm suppose to get my Carbotech XP-10 pads in from Counter Space Garage today and plan to install this evening. I will post some pics and videos with impressions soon there after.

OrbitalEllipses 05-02-2014 12:42 PM

Bleeders at all four corners, convenient!

swift996 05-02-2014 01:02 PM

Some shots compared to the OEM rotor:
http://i.imgur.com/lWguTOb.png

http://i.imgur.com/fvIasEl.png

http://i.imgur.com/yLPhu0o.png

OrbitalEllipses 05-02-2014 01:03 PM

Weight w/ hat vs. stock?

swift996 05-02-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1711454)
Weight w/ hat vs. stock?

Rotor is 17.5lbs and the hat is 2.1lbs = 19.6lbs
The caliper weighs 5lbs
(all weights according to Wilwood)

swift996 05-02-2014 01:13 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF5f8W23H8w"]6 pot Wilwood Kit for WRX mated to BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

OrbitalEllipses 05-02-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 1711459)
Rotor is 17.5lbs and the hat is 2.1lbs = 19.6lbs
The caliper weighs 5lbs
(all weights according to Wilwood)

I was asking you bro :-P I can look up Wilwood's info haha.

swift996 05-02-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1711487)
I was asking you bro :-P I can look up Wilwood's info haha.

Unfortunately, I don't have a scale. The pad area is still a tad smaller than the AP Racing kit from my research but pretty close and a nice option if you wan't larger diameter rotors. I picked my kit up for $1260 shipped (used for about 5k miles). I've seen them sub $1700 new, here for $1620 new http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/360787823367?lpid=82

swift996 05-02-2014 07:50 PM

A few more pics. I installed them, just waiting for a buddy to help me bleed them:

http://i.imgur.com/fD3iakk.png

http://i.imgur.com/oB9OCMd.png

SportInjected 05-02-2014 08:30 PM

Sweet! The rotors fill the wheels nicely. Report back on how they perform, once you get them bled.

Scooby South 05-02-2014 10:29 PM

Very nice.. I would suggest some Tonge factory Brake ducts to help cool :)..

you should check with Wilwood and see if the 4pot can be used in the rear..:) with different rotors of course..

Bill

swift996 05-02-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby South (Post 1712538)
Very nice.. I would suggest some Tonge factory Brake ducts to help cool :)..

you should check with Wilwood and see if the 4pot can be used in the rear..:) with different rotors of course..

Bill

If it were simple, I would but they didn't know that this or the last kit I got from you worked. I've got a bunch of people interested in the old kit, I got a ton of extra stuff with it too, so I'll just sell. Perhaps down the road I'll look into something for the rear. I've kept my eye out for the 08+ STI brembo rears.

Scooby South 05-02-2014 10:38 PM

^^^ STi's will work.. also. I am using 06/07 WRX Red 2 pot rears.. with the 4pot StopTech kit.. works great..

Looks good

Bill

Scooby South 05-02-2014 10:45 PM

Heres mine.. it has Kens Brakes Rear Bracket..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...18708204_n.jpg

Fronts..

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...64452133_n.jpg

Bill

Racecomp Engineering 05-02-2014 11:21 PM

The Subaru WRX 2 pot rear is a better fit bias wise than the brembos.

- Andy

swift996 05-03-2014 03:09 PM

For whatever reason, I wasn't getting fluid out of the caliper. I disconnected the line and it was running up to the caliper. When I tried to reinstall it, I broke the fitting that goes over the line. I'm going to run up to Mach V and see if they have something I can improvise with.

Top-Secret 05-04-2014 10:57 AM

08+ STI brembos bolt on perfectly front and rear. iv just spent the last 4 hours reading into all of this. you do however need new rotors.
2008-2012 STI Front and Rear Calipers
2008-2012 STI DBA 4000 Series T3 Rotors
only thing you need to do is swtich the bleed knuckle.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...light=sti+swap

everything you need to know right there
wicked set up you have tho

**NOTE: STI rear brembos are less effective then our stock rears**

swift996 05-06-2014 09:24 PM

Alright, I'm up and running. Some quick pics and impressions in my build thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=23136&page=26

gss0931 05-10-2014 01:50 PM

For the 140-12875 kit for WRX, just double confirm that is it perfectly fits on the BRZ? Is there any minor adjustment needed during the install process?
BTW, what is your wheel parameter? J? ET?

THanks.

swift996 05-12-2014 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gss0931 (Post 1728020)
For the 140-12875 kit for WRX, just double confirm that is it perfectly fits on the BRZ? Is there any minor adjustment needed during the install process?
BTW, what is your wheel parameter? J? ET?

THanks.

Let me start off by saying I'm just a guy in a driveway who has tinkered with sports cars for about 15 years. I'm not a mechanical expert but worked at a shop back in high school. I do just about all of my own work but I'm not a professional.

Everything with that kit bolted directly up. The fitment was fine, I was actually surprised how much space I had (although it doesn't look like it from outside the wheel on the ground). I need to get back under the car and verify everything looks good and no leaks. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary and the brakes feel great!

My front wheels ESM 004's 18x8.0 +35.

I got my kit used but for the price tag, the new kit is a steal. I think I saw it on ebay for $1620 shipped.

gss0931 05-15-2014 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 1730693)
Let me start off by saying I'm just a guy in a driveway who has tinkered with sports cars for about 15 years. I'm not a mechanical expert but worked at a shop back in high school. I do just about all of my own work but I'm not a professional.

Everything with that kit bolted directly up. The fitment was fine, I was actually surprised how much space I had (although it doesn't look like it from outside the wheel on the ground). I need to get back under the car and verify everything looks good and no leaks. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary and the brakes feel great!

My front wheels ESM 004's 18x8.0 +35.

I got my kit used but for the price tag, the new kit is a steal. I think I saw it on ebay for $1620 shipped.

It sounds great, compared with the official kit with 12.88' rotor , this 14' rotor looks great!
Thanks!


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