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csworldfan 03-27-2014 01:29 AM

Lower the seats?
 
Hey everyone. First of all, just picked a 2013 ignition silver 6mt. Absolutely love the car, i just have one issue. I'm 6'7, and my right knee sits very close to the steering wheel. That's with the seat all the way back and down. Is there any aftermarket brackets that lower the seat? I saw that DA motorsports was making one, but that fell through. Maybe there's another possible solution? I appreciate the input guys.

Happy motoring.

wootwoot 03-27-2014 01:32 AM

Nothing is out yet... There was a vendor that was working on it for a while but I don't think it ever came to market.

Jertronic 03-27-2014 02:41 AM

The FR-S can accommodate tall and semi-large people. I'm 6'1" 205lbs and its a great fit for me. Others have said the same. If I recall correctly we have a 6'4" dude on this forum who thinks the cockpit comfortable and thrilling at the same time.

But, 6'7" is a different and higher tier of of BIGNESS.

The way I understood the OEM seating position is that at the lowest setting your dairy aire is 10 inches from the pavement.

I'm sure custom seats are an option. I'm curious to learn what you modify. Update the thread when you make you modification.

Jertronic.

AznKirby 03-27-2014 02:50 AM

Time for aftermarket seats and low rails, maybe?

csworldfan 03-27-2014 10:55 AM

Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. I would definitely go the aftermarket seat route, if it wasn't for my 5'2 wife who drives the car... She wouldn't be able to see over the dash. Is it possible to remove the knee bad? It's not head room I need, it's just an extra inch or so of knee room.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 03-27-2014 10:57 AM

I am 6'2" and I need more headroom with a helmet, hopefully there's some lowered rails that come out in the future.

supramkivtt2jz 03-27-2014 11:02 AM

there was a vendor working on it, but they stopped posting in the thread. everyone assumed they flaked.

im 6'4"/6'5" and NEED helmet room. I have to do the gangsta lean to make it happen.

BTW, you can strech the seat cushion spring and gain an extra half inch or so of headroom.

Model Citizen 03-27-2014 11:20 AM

I'm about 6'3" with a long torso, I fit terribly in small cars. I made the leap into this one because the headroom was just bearable in stock form and at the time it looked like the damotorsports solution was on the horizon. They went radio silent on the product and I started on trying to find my own solution.

Springs stretched and the plastic ties that bind them cut did help, not enough to clear a helmet however.

This is what I ended up doing, and it has been fantastic. Gf needs a booster seat to drive the car comfortably now (she's averageish height 5'7" or so). Shorter people that sit in the car can barely see over the wheel. The seat pan is basically sitting on the floor and thanks to the scooped design of the base just about all the headroom that can be gained is.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46801


Is your issue slouching for headroom that's causing knees into the wheel?

gily25 03-27-2014 11:26 AM

Do you need the rear seat? Maybe you could do a rear seat delete and a longer seat bracket to slide back another 1/2-1" http://ft86speedfactory.com/seibon-c...panel-493.html You may not even need to change the seat slide, I don't know if that is the end of the slide or the seat cushion stops it first.

You might check out some of the forums for other small cars and see if there are any hints or tips. Miata, del sol, s2000...

csworldfan 03-27-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Model Citizen (Post 1629600)
I'm about 6'3" with a long torso, I fit terribly in small cars. I made the leap into this one because the headroom was just bearable in stock form and at the time it looked like the damotorsports solution was on the horizon. They went radio silent on the product and I started on trying to find my own solution.

Springs stretched and the plastic ties that bind them cut did help, not enough to clear a helmet however.

This is what I ended up doing, and it has been fantastic. Gf needs a booster seat to drive the car comfortably now (she's averageish height 5'7" or so). Shorter people that sit in the car can barely see over the wheel. The seat pan is basically sitting on the floor and thanks to the scooped design of the base just about all the headroom that can be gained is.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46801


Is your issue slouching for headroom that's causing knees into the wheel?

Well alot of my height is in my legs, so when sitting up straight my head barely touches the roof, and my knee comes very close to the steering wheel. I do lean the seat back pretty far though. I'm almost thinking about just getting an aftermarket steering wheel and an extension to bring it closer to me and away from my knee. I might look into the rx8 seats though, how much did you pay for them?

humfrz 03-27-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gily25 (Post 1629623)
Do you need the rear seat? Maybe you could do a rear seat delete and a longer seat bracket to slide back another 1/2-1" http://ft86speedfactory.com/seibon-c...panel-493.html You may not even need to change the seat slide, I don't know if that is the end of the slide or the seat cushion stops it first.

You might check out some of the forums for other small cars and see if there are any hints or tips. Miata, del sol, s2000...

Some of the "longer" Miata owners used to place spacers (and longer bolts) under the rear of the seat track to tilt the seat to allow more leg room. Don't know if that would work (or is possible) in a FR-S.....??

humfrz

Model Citizen 03-27-2014 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csworldfan (Post 1629632)
Well alot of my height is in my legs, so when sitting up straight my head barely touches the roof, and my knee comes very close to the steering wheel. I do lean the seat back pretty far though. I'm almost thinking about just getting an aftermarket steering wheel and an extension to bring it closer to me and away from my knee. I might look into the rx8 seats though, how much did you pay for them?

I got lucky. $75 for the cushions, <$140 ish for standard seat and frame. Going rate on the rx8 recaros are $600+ ish, once you find them. The standard rx8 seat base basically has a flat cushion, the Recaro was scooped out, not sure about the leather variants

Legroom isn't normally much of an issue for me (other than in a solstice). Headroom is always the killer, but who knows maybe the altering of angles would help you out enough.

Tilt wheel in this car isn't enough?

csworldfan 03-27-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Model Citizen (Post 1629650)
I got lucky. $75 for the cushions, <$140 ish for standard seat and frame. Going rate on the rx8 recaros are $600+ ish, once you find them. The standard rx8 seat base basically has a flat cushion, the Recaro was scooped out, not sure about the leather variants

Legroom isn't normally much of an issue for me (other than in a solstice). Headroom is always the killer, but who knows maybe the altering of angles would help you out enough.

Tilt wheel in this car isn't enough?

Later this evening I'll take a picture so everyone had a better understanding.

csworldfan 03-28-2014 12:33 AM

http://i.imgur.com/gFQc9dPh.jpg

So this is my issue... My knee is just too Damn close to the steering wheel. This is with the seat all the way back, and lowered. Any suggestions?

toeout 03-28-2014 02:37 AM

You need to bring the steering wheel closer, no other way around it. I had a 2001 Accord with the most hateful ergonomics. Momo steering wheel with 90mm dish solved my problem.

Uncomfortable seating position will be in the back of your mind every time you drive, not worth putting up with it.

RevoG 03-28-2014 08:19 AM

I have the same problem. 6'6 and just fit. No space for a helmet. Might have to take the time at some point and remove the seat to see what can be done.

Model Citizen 03-28-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csworldfan (Post 1631640)
http://i.imgur.com/gFQc9dPh.jpg

So this is my issue... My knee is just too Damn close to the steering wheel. This is with the seat all the way back, and lowered. Any suggestions?

Not sure how much just being lower would help, would that just point your thigh at a lower angle?

Stock seats already go basically against where the floor rises in the rear iirc. I may be wrong though.

csworldfan 03-28-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toeout (Post 1631834)
You need to bring the steering wheel closer, no other way around it. I had a 2001 Accord with the most hateful ergonomics. Momo steering wheel with 90mm dish solved my problem.

Uncomfortable seating position will be in the back of your mind every time you drive, not worth putting up with it.

Is there any way to get a spacer for the stock wheel? I'd like to retain the airbag.

supramkivtt2jz 03-28-2014 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csworldfan (Post 1631640)
http://i.imgur.com/gFQc9dPh.jpg

So this is my issue... My knee is just too Damn close to the steering wheel. This is with the seat all the way back, and lowered. Any suggestions?


Cut your feet off? I feel like thats what I have to do... :bellyroll:

Luis_GT 03-28-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csworldfan (Post 1631640)
http://i.imgur.com/gFQc9dPh.jpg

So this is my issue... My knee is just too Damn close to the steering wheel. This is with the seat all the way back, and lowered. Any suggestions?

You never mentioned if you moved the steering wheel, did you put it at the highest position and pulled it closer to your chest (Some people don't know the steering wheel is telescopic)

csworldfan 03-28-2014 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis_GT (Post 1632201)
You never mentioned if you moved the steering wheel, did you put it at the highest position and pulled it closer to your chest (Some people don't know the steering wheel is telescopic)

Steering wheel is as high and as far back as it goes.

brzr 03-28-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csworldfan (Post 1632456)
Steering wheel is as high and as far back as it goes.

what if you put it up high, and pull it out instead of back?

forzajuve 03-28-2014 06:33 PM

Get to choppin`
http://cdn.vectorstock.com/i/composi...tor-951418.jpg

csworldfan 03-29-2014 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzr (Post 1633244)
what if you put it up high, and pull it out instead of back?

That's what I meant, sorry. It's as close to me as possible.

StuAU 03-31-2014 06:40 PM

Is it possible to remove the seats height adjustment mechanism? That should give you another inch.

Imsteak 04-04-2014 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Model Citizen (Post 1629600)
I'm about 6'3" with a long torso, I fit terribly in small cars. I made the leap into this one because the headroom was just bearable in stock form and at the time it looked like the damotorsports solution was on the horizon. They went radio silent on the product and I started on trying to find my own solution.

Springs stretched and the plastic ties that bind them cut did help, not enough to clear a helmet however.

This is what I ended up doing, and it has been fantastic. Gf needs a booster seat to drive the car comfortably now (she's averageish height 5'7" or so). Shorter people that sit in the car can barely see over the wheel. The seat pan is basically sitting on the floor and thanks to the scooped design of the base just about all the headroom that can be gained is.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46801


Is your issue slouching for headroom that's causing knees into the wheel?


Hey Got a question on spring stretch and plastic bind. What do you mean by that. I am 6'2 and I think lower half inch will clear me of the helmet I have

Model Citizen 04-04-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imsteak (Post 1649073)
Hey Got a question on spring stretch and plastic bind. What do you mean by that. I am 6'2 and I think lower half inch will clear me of the helmet I have

Look under the seat

You'll see


Someone listed a base pic in one of the threads.

SupaDave 06-21-2016 03:52 PM

I know this is a pretty old thread but did anyone get a clear answer for the riddle of the tall man for the seats?

SupaDave 06-21-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csworldfan (Post 1631640)
http://i.imgur.com/gFQc9dPh.jpg

So this is my issue... My knee is just too Damn close to the steering wheel. This is with the seat all the way back, and lowered. Any suggestions?

I have the same issue I was thinking of removing the the knee pad or getting one of the soft knee pads. those appear thinner than the factory piece to allow more clearance and let me get my leg out of the way of the wheel or at leat inspire more confidence that it wont be in the way

FX86 06-21-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupaDave (Post 2686327)
I know this is a pretty old thread but did anyone get a clear answer for the riddle of the tall man for the seats?

buy a bigger car..like a mustang:rolleyes:

chaoskaze 06-22-2016 01:22 AM

O.O is the steering wheel pulled all the way out?


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FR-Sky 06-22-2016 03:06 AM

I am 5"8,,,and i raise my seat pretty high,,other wise i will be facing my steering wheel. lol

MJones_RB 06-22-2016 12:47 PM

Seats aren't going to get much lower, there's about 2" of space between the seat bottom and the floor. Even if you dropped the seat to the absolute floor, it wouldn't help you. The problem is the leg length. You have to do what tall people have always done in smaller cars: push the seats back to the max, and adjust the angle of the seatback until it's relatively comfortable. Also, tilt the steering wheel up and out so that it doesn't hit your knees. Good luck!

http://img.ksl.com/slc/2501/250112/25011249.jpg

Pat 06-22-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 2687107)
The problem is the leg length. You have to do what tall people have always done in smaller cars: push the seats back to the max, and adjust the angle of the seatback until it's relatively comfortable

FWIW, I'm 6'3". I don't have the seat all the way back because the steering wheel doesn't telescope enough for me to reach properly. At least in my case it's not nearly as easy as you make it sound. There are multiple variables at play here, and changing one usually changes others.

mazeroni 06-22-2016 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat (Post 2687153)
FWIW, I'm 6'3". I don't have the seat all the way back because the steering wheel doesn't telescope enough for me to reach properly. At least in my case it's not nearly as easy as you make it sound. There are multiple variables at play here, and changing one usually changes others.

At 6'2" with a lot of legs, I would pay so much money for Toyota to give me another 1" of telescope.

Something odd about the car is it feels like you are sitting high up, but that really isn't the case. I think because the beltline is so low it just feels that way. The facts that I can open the door and casually touch the ground without needing to lean all that much tells you enough about how low you really are. Of course I am on stock suspension height and could be lower.

GSpeed 06-24-2016 03:25 PM

Shameless plug, we ran into this problem with our BRZ we're building for a tall customer. We just got our first prototypes back of some low-profile seat mounts that might be helpful.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2688336


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