Regret grippy tires?
 

Guys

I love how my car handles. Its super fun to drive and I love slipping the back end out at slow speeds sometimes. (...professional driver, closed course, no doubt :bs: )

I've been watching numerous video reviews etc. and many times people say one factor is the narrow, not so grippy tires.
I feel Ive just made a huge mistake and bought 245-40-17s for my new 17x8 rims. I know they will fit, that's NOT my issue. My issue is: I don't want to change the nature of my car.

Has anyone regretted buying grippier tires?

Can anyone recommend a Michelin Primacy replacement? (Prius tires)

The only con to replacing the stock tires: you get worse gas mileage.

But even that one con isn't all that much. I've seen a -1 or -2 mpg hit due to changing to decent all seasons (Goodyear Eagle Sport) and about the same or a little more on summers (Continental DW). Is it worth it to me to a) stop sooner, b) corner harder, c) have a quieter ride, d) have a more compliant ride? Yes.

I like a tight feel.

Do you?

Well the question is, do you want grip?

For those people who like to slide around on the twisty roads or drift through parking lots, probably want to stick with the OEM tires.

For those who want grip, then I no, definitely don't regret it. I hated to OEM tires, was happy with the PSS, and should be much happier with the NT-01 r-comps.

Giggidy

Loose women and tight cars?

If you want to run the 8" wheels, and you want more OEM-like responsiveness, I'd suggest going back to a 215 tire in an all-season compound - maybe something like a Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 in either its High Performance or its Ultra High Performance version. You can read reviews and test results of the UHP version here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Speed+Rated%29.

This should provide you somewhat more grip than the Primacy, but in a 215 probably not so much that you couldn't still move the rear around whenever you wanted.

Lets not get picky here, not all of us are male models.


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Even turbocharged, i regret buying grippies for daily use.

I'm shopping for some rubber that are a lot harder and last longer.

Somewhat. Taking on-ramp at 70mph without breaking traction is fun, but the sheer amount of grip becomes boring in day-to-day commute type driving.

This is why you have more than one set of wheels.
One for daily, One for track.

You won't change the characteristics of the car with a larger set of stickier tires. WHat you will do, is amplify the characteristics, whether good or bad, when you're at the limit.

An understeery car will understeer more. An oversteery car will oversteer more. It'll become more difficult (impossible?) to power-oversteer.

He mentioned nothing about track use. just daily driven.

OP, if you enjoy stock tire on street why replace them? I'm sure you can buy some owners are selling with low mileage because they hate them for less than any "comparable" replacement.

Good thing you live in VA because eagle sports are shit all seasons (i.e. any amount of snow)

Nigh-impossible. Still possible, but really does require the perfect circumstances.

Why not just use the stock tires on your new rims? They'd fit. Barely, but they would.

I want to mount my RPF1s. 17x8

NO, I feel that 245/40/17 MPSS are what the car should have come with. I can still get the rear out. No problem.

I have 255 all seasons (continental DWS) on the rear, and under hard cornering on corner exit I can EASILY oversteer...

Yeah, I can break traction on 265/35 Michelin PSS.

More grip is fucking awesome. Don't regret it one bit.

Eh, they were decent in the slush we got a couple times this winter. Predictable traction break away characteristics in dry and wet. I can't bag them too much because I got them new, mounted, for like $350.

I don't regret it at all. It made the car less spastic. It will break loose if prodded enough, I'm sure, but I enjoy the fact that it doesnt CASUALLY break loose anymore.

It's only been 3 days since I've got a new set of wheels and tires.

Love how the car just hooks and shoots with the new set up.

I didn't really care about daily driving to be honest. If I didn't start tracking the car, I probably would have cared much more though.

FWIW, Ill leave a message here about what I did do.

I bought Eagle F1 Assymetricals in 245-40-17.
I love how the car sticks now and find it more fun than ever. Its doing what I love to do best, going around curves fast.

I do not regret getting rid of the low grip tires at all.

No regrets here. I got tired of attracting attention squealing my tires around normal corners even when I wasn't trying to have fun. And from a start too the stock tires chirped a lot.

Now its no noise just moar speed :D

@stock

Like some have alluded to, grip has more to do with tire compound than tire width. If you want to keep the fun street character of the stock car on a wider than stock tire, I'd choose something with less ultimate grip and better wet performance for the street. I also wouldn't go wider than 235 because many have reported at about 245 you may start to lose steering "feel" (the sidewall aspect ratio, and construction will also play a part here as well as tire inflation pressure).

So for what you're looking for, I'd drop down in the range of "ultimate grip" and get some of the "fun" back you're seeking.

Performance Categories (per Tirerack)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/tiretype.jsp

Extreme Performance Summer (some examples)
Direzza Star Specs
Hankook RS3
Bridgestone RE-11As
Fastest
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=172

Max Performance Summer (some examples)
Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Bridgestone Potenza S4 Pole Position
Sumitomo HTR ZIII (Try this)
Fastest
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174
Best Budget
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=149

Ultra-High Performance Summer (some examples)
Yokohama S.Drives (or Try this)
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport (or Try this)
BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 (or Try this)
Fastest
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=163

High Performance Summer (some examples)
Barren Wasteland

Grand Touring Summer (some examples)
Michelin Primacy HPs (Stock Tires)

You may also explore All-Season tires if you're in a place where the temps often drop below 50 degrees. Ambient temperature performance also plays a large role in how much grip is available throughout the performance envelope.

Hope this helps a little.

Women and cars it always comes down to how fast you can afford.

I went with Michelin PSS's on my daily driver and while I do not regret purchasing them for the extra grip, I do regret not going with something a little cheaper.

I do not go to the track nor do I intend to so I could have gotten away with tires that lasted a big longer. At the rate I drive, I will burn through a set of the PSS's in about a year which while not inherently bad, is still around $900. Just something to think about depending upon intended usage of your car.

Hey guys, I wanted to know if 17x8 rims would fit? Thinking of buying these, but idk if they'll fit. http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/we.../1000x1000.jpg

This is what I did. I went with HTR ZIII's because I wanted tires with a lower limit (compared with EP category tires), but would have decent heat tolerance at the track. They've been great. Audible feedback, passable wear, and will take some track abuse. And cheap.

I've got a set of 235 width NT05's next. Mainly for more heat tolerance.

And to OP's question, I switched back to stock Turanzas for the winter. I will say, the lower limits are more exploitable on the street. Fun for the off-season, but I'm ready for summer tires now.

What offset are the wheels and what size tire do you intend to mount?

I was thinking with going with 235's or 245's in the rear. For the offset, I think it's +53.

Wow! I jus found this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9420

and this one:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34789

lol :iono:

a demonstration video of the mentioned above please :popcorn: