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cooldandani 03-07-2014 10:33 PM

Springs or coilovers?
 
Hey guys!! Sorry for the moon question but what is the difference between Springs and coilovers, thanks for the input!!

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Cjymiller 03-07-2014 10:42 PM

This will definitely help you in the right direction:

http://bit.ly/1oyUy0q

Wise 03-07-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldandani (Post 1582988)
Hey guys!! Sorry for the moon question but what is the difference between Springs and coilovers, thanks for the input!!

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PROS

Springs - Cheaper, legal (In states where coilovers aren't)

Coilovers - Ability to adjust height and damper settings. Also camber depending on the type.


DIFFERENCE

A Spring just replaces the stock spring around your stock shock. The length or spring rate will determine the stiffness of your suspension and height of your car. These cannot be adjusted unless you couple the spring with an aftermarket skock.

A Coilover is like an aftermarker spring and shock in one unit.

cooldandani 03-07-2014 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wise (Post 1583047)
PROS

Springs - Cheaper, legal (In states where coilovers aren't)

Coilovers - Ability to adjust height and damper settings. Also camber depending on the type.


DIFFERENCE

A Spring just replaces the stock spring around your stock shock. The length or spring rate will determine the stiffness of your suspension and height of your car. These cannot be adjusted unless you couple the spring with an aftermarket skock.

A Coilover is like an aftermarker spring and shock in one unit.

Thanks so much!! Very useful info, you happen to be running Springs or coilovers?

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Wise 03-07-2014 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldandani (Post 1583056)
Thanks so much!! Very useful info, you happen to be running Springs or coilovers?

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I have a set of Eibach Pro Kit springs for now. They just drop the car 1" or 25mm.

N1rve 03-07-2014 11:19 PM

Coilovers.

Your stock strut is not engineered to be used with lowering springs. You're going to blow your stock struts sooner than you should and then you'll have repurchase new struts.

Might as well do it right the first time and have coilovers because they're engineered to be lowered.

cooldandani 03-07-2014 11:21 PM

Hmm okay well Idk what to go for, any decent set of coilovers for under 1000$?

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N1rve 03-07-2014 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldandani (Post 1583075)
Hmm okay well Idk what to go for, any decent set of coilovers for under 1000$?

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Plenty.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/suspensi...ndex-1-3a.html

cooldandani 03-07-2014 11:29 PM

Oh nice any recommendations specifically?

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N1rve 03-07-2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldandani (Post 1583085)
Oh nice any recommendations specifically?

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When I had my Altima, they weren't satisfied with the Megan Racing EZ because it didn't lower the car enough for their liking. I don't know if the issue is still here.

I'd go with the EXTREME LOW by BC Racing... just because MOAR LOWWW. ;)

cooldandani 03-07-2014 11:39 PM

Lmao yeah that'll be sexy, well I'll do a little more research and see what I end up getting

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boredom.is.me 03-07-2014 11:45 PM

As far as I'm aware, the only blown struts that have been reported were a result of bad spring installation. And even though though the dampers may be under a little more stress, our cars were actually designed to have optimum geometry at an 20mm drop.

But you left out the only important bit. Why are asking this? show or go?

cooldandani 03-07-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1583112)
As far as I'm aware, the only blown struts that have been reported were a result of bad spring installation. And even though though the dampers may be under a little more stress, our cars were actually designed to have optimum geometry at an 20mm drop.

But you left out the only important bit. Why are asking this? show or go?

Of course I'm planning on lowering my car they look sexy as fuck lowered lol just don't have much experience in that field so I'm taking my time and researching to find what I want,

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ZOMFGAARON 03-07-2014 11:58 PM

Anyone have ridiculous miles on springs with stock struts?

boredom.is.me 03-08-2014 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cooldandani (Post 1583136)
Of course I'm planning on lowering my car they look sexy as fuck lowered lol just don't have much experience in that field so I'm taking my time and researching to find what I want,

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Do you intend on going purely for looks, or are you actually interested in driving?

hunter3232792 03-08-2014 12:27 AM

trd offers springs go that way and dont worry about stuff you got warranty?

DJCarbine 03-08-2014 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ZOMFGAARON (Post 1583143)
Anyone have ridiculous miles on springs with stock struts?

Only ~8K on sportlines, but they drop 1.4" all around which is pretty aggressive. No problems yet. They were just going to hold me over until coilovers... but as long as my shocks survive I won't swap them out

ZOMFGAARON 03-08-2014 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hunter3232792 (Post 1583182)
trd offers springs go that way and dont worry about stuff you got warranty?


They're discontinued I've checked.


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Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 1583201)
Only ~8K on sportlines, but they drop 1.4" all around which is pretty aggressive. No problems yet. They were just going to hold me over until coilovers... but as long as my shocks survive I won't swap them out


This is what I've been debating on doing. Is the ride a lot worse? Do you scrape often?
Sorry for all the questions most people running this set up have very few miles on it.

N1rve 03-08-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1583112)
As far as I'm aware, the only blown struts that have been reported were a result of bad spring installation. And even though though the dampers may be under a little more stress, our cars were actually designed to have optimum geometry at an 20mm drop.

But you left out the only important bit. Why are asking this? show or go?

All struts blow over time, it's just the matter of time. Lowering the car just shortens the strut's life.

DJCarbine 03-08-2014 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ZOMFGAARON (Post 1583210)
They're discontinued I've checked.





This is what I've been debating on doing. Is the ride a lot worse? Do you scrape often?
Sorry for all the questions most people running this set up have very few miles on it.

I daily drive in Chicago and have been fine. Have not had any scraping issues, just have to watch out for high curbs when parking. The ride is not terrible at all, it feels like stock just a lot more firm. Crappy/bumpy roads will be more apparent, but IMO its perfectly fine for a daily

hunter3232792 03-08-2014 03:28 AM

[QUOTE=ZOMFGAARON;1583210]They're discontinued I've checked.

this?


http://www.toyotaterritory.com/scrip...idproduct=1732

ericmpena 03-08-2014 03:43 AM

I ran Sportlines for 5-6 months and even though my struts never blew out, the ride quality really sucked. Like someone has already said, the factory struts aren't meant for lowering springs. You'll be putting your struts under stress and will in turn sacrifice ride quality.

If you are set on getting springs, I'd go with a Pro-Kit. They will lower the car 1" and from what I hear the ride quality isn't affected much.

If you're looking to lower further than 1" but want to keep a good ride quality then look for coilovers. I have SPD's Pro-Street coilovers which are great if the car is just your daily driver and not going to be used on the track. They can lower the car plenty while maintaining factory-like ride quality.

Just do research on this site. There are plenty of reviews on both springs and coilovers. It's a big investment, so make sure you do it right the first time so you don't end up wasting money!


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