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Shad0ez 02-17-2014 04:09 PM

Interior Speakers
 
Looking for some advice. I recently added a JL 10w6v2 in the trunk and it is exactly what I was looking for to fill up the cabin with the low end I was missing. However, it doesn't seem like the stock components can keep up and I'm now looking to upgrade those.

Apparently the sizes of our speakers aren't very common when it comes to the dash and the rear side panel. Door speaker at 6.5 inch seems to be used often and there are a lot of options there.

I'm not extremely picky, but would like something that doesn't get drowned out too badly without being too bright. Would I be better off going with a set of components and place the tweeter in the dash area or would a 2 way be sufficient?

I plan on purchasing a 4 channel amp to power everything in the cabin. Can anyone offer any suggestions on this route or other options?

SirBrass 02-17-2014 04:26 PM

Come to the wednesday evening meet and I'll show you my setup, which uses a 6.5" component system (woofer in the door, tweeter in the dash), and 4" coaxial in the dash, with those and the subwoofer powered by a 5 channel amp and the stock rear speakers powered by the headunit.

I'm running a 10W3v3-2 Sub, btw.

Flat Black VW 02-17-2014 05:43 PM

Im running similar to sirbrass, 6.5 in woofer in the door, 4in component set in the dash. 5 channel amp, 2 channels to dash, 2 channels to the door playing lower/mid frequencies, and fifth channel power a sub.

Rear speakers were left alone and powered by the HU.

Another option is to just throw a 6.5 in component set for the full front stage with the woofer in the door and the tweeter in the dash.

SirBrass 02-17-2014 05:46 PM

I'm going to mod my current system in a few months with some help. Going to have someone help me mount 6.5" coaxials in the rear for audio fill, and I'm going to get another amp (a 2 channel this time), power the door components off of the 2 channel amp, and the dash coax and rear coax off the 5ch and set them up for fill and balance, to drive the staging forward like it ought.

And also go for a fiberglass instead of MDF subwoofer box.

It's going to sound even more badass ;)

Shad0ez 02-17-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 1536199)
Im running similar to sirbrass, 6.5 in woofer in the door, 4in component set in the dash. 5 channel amp, 2 channels to dash, 2 channels to the door playing lower/mid frequencies, and fifth channel power a sub.

Rear speakers were left alone and powered by the HU.

Another option is to just throw a 6.5 in component set for the full front stage with the woofer in the door and the tweeter in the dash.

This is pretty much the direction I was planning on going except I'll have a separate 4 channel amp to run the components and the coaxials and a dedicated mono for the sub. Either of you have any trouble getting a 4 inch coax to fit next to the component tweeter? I believe the stock size is 3.5 inch.

SirBrass 02-17-2014 06:12 PM

Nope. No trouble.

I've got JL TR400 coaxials next to the 1" tweeters from my JBL MS-62Cs in the dash. My installer made some minor changes to the dash speaker panel to fit the 4" in, but had no trouble fitting them in.

Flat Black VW 02-19-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shad0ez (Post 1536218)
This is pretty much the direction I was planning on going except I'll have a separate 4 channel amp to run the components and the coaxials and a dedicated mono for the sub. Either of you have any trouble getting a 4 inch coax to fit next to the component tweeter? I believe the stock size is 3.5 inch.

Mines not a 4 in coax but a 4" Focal component slim. Fit fine.
Also didnt run a coax in the door but a 6.5 in midbass, just switched it to these guys:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ies/TS-M650PRO

Shad0ez 02-21-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 1541087)
Mines not a 4 in coax but a 4" Focal component slim. Fit fine.
Also didnt run a coax in the door but a 6.5 in midbass, just switched it to these guys:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ies/TS-M650PRO

Did you need to make additional modifications to your door panel to get the pioneer to fit? They're listed as having a mounting depth of just over 3 inches.

f0rge 02-21-2014 03:24 PM

Even just amping the stock speakers with some real power makes a huge difference. I just amped my door speakers and the difference was night and day.

So much so that I've reconsidered replacing them with aftermarket speakers. Well I'm also lazy so that doesn't help.

Flat Black VW 02-21-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shad0ez (Post 1547644)
Did you need to make additional modifications to your door panel to get the pioneer to fit? They're listed as having a mounting depth of just over 3 inches.

I had to use a 1/2 in piece of MDF to mount them, but that was less because it needed a spacer and more because it allowed the speaker to mount properly. Probably would not have fit without the MDF though.

Shad0ez 03-12-2014 04:27 PM

So I have my components and coaxial in and they sound amazing. Only down side is that the coaxials are about half an inch too long and the bottom is touching the air vent. Can't completely close the cover on the dash now. Anyone happen to have a solution for this other than buying a shorter coaxial? The ones I have are about two inches in length.


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SirBrass 03-12-2014 04:35 PM

Trim down the underside mounts.

What front dash coaxials did you use?

If you'd like the aid of an audio install shop to clean up the speaker install, I can definitely recommend a good place to go.

Shad0ez 03-12-2014 04:36 PM

Infinity reference 4002cfx. If you're going to the meet tonight ill chat with you there


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SirBrass 03-12-2014 05:07 PM

Will do. I forgot what the depth specs are on my JL 4" coaxials in the dash, but they fit with only a little bit of trimming, according to my installer.

XanRules 03-12-2014 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirBrass (Post 1535982)
Come to the wednesday evening meet and I'll show you my setup, which uses a 6.5" component system (woofer in the door, tweeter in the dash), and 4" coaxial in the dash, with those and the subwoofer powered by a 5 channel amp and the stock rear speakers powered by the headunit.

I'm running a 10W3v3-2 Sub, btw.

I was literally about to make a thread asking about this EXACT front setup.

How are you liking it so far?

I'm going to either go with Infinity reference series or Polk dbs, both of which I've had in previous cars and been happy with.

SirBrass 03-12-2014 05:43 PM

I'm enjoying it. No trouble, really. Though the JBL's tweeter is a bit too bright on the very high notes. But the JL is pretty good, with warmer highs that aren't too bright.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 1536199)
Im running similar to sirbrass, 6.5 in woofer in the door, 4in component set in the dash. 5 channel amp, 2 channels to dash, 2 channels to the door playing lower/mid frequencies, and fifth channel power a sub.

Rear speakers were left alone and powered by the HU.

Another option is to just throw a 6.5 in component set for the full front stage with the woofer in the door and the tweeter in the dash.

Mine is actually quite different. I'm running a 6.5 components in the doors/dash (woofer in the door, tweeter in the dash) as the rear channels, and the front channels being the 4" coaxials, and sub in the trunk.

I'm looking at modifying my setup with help from @captain_jack by putting in a 2x100 2channel amp in as well, powering the components off of it, and putting in 6.5" coaxials in the rear. The 5ch amp will then power the 4" coaxials on the front channels, and the 6.5" coaxials on the rear channels, with appropriate cross overs to bias the sound to the front but keep the full range rear fill. The 2ch will pass thru the front channel pre-outs to the front channel of the 5ch., and I'll run a 1-to-2 distribution block to power the new amp without having to add another power line at the battery. I'll just make sure the fuses are either correct or are upgraded.

XanRules 03-12-2014 05:45 PM

Cool. How/where did you mount the crossovers?

SirBrass 03-12-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XanRules (Post 1594269)
Cool. How/where did you mount the crossovers?

Up inside the side panels below the dash.

XanRules 03-12-2014 05:52 PM

Cool. I'll start assembling my system shortly.


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